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Subject: Interesting observation about rotary MF viewer
Date: 2006-12-07 12:27:12
From: DrT (George Themelis)
I mentioned in a previous post that I have asked 3D World to make this
viewer with the following specifications:
- No Coins
- No Timer, just press the button when you want to advance. Shut off after
2 minutes of inactivity but do not reset (move to the beginning) but stay at
last seen slide.
- No writing in the unit.
- FL bulb lighting.

By mistake the first unit sent to me was on a timer. As it turns out, a
local museum liked the timer more than the "no timer" version and they
ordered two units. Apparently, they prefer if people touch things as little
as possible.

And a club member who saw the viewer in our club meeting said that he wants
to buy one, but he wants the coin-operated viewer. I guess he is attracted
to the coin-operation idea.

So, right now, I am the only one who likes my modifications in this viewer
:)

George Themelis
Subject: Re: Interesting observation about rotary MF viewer
Date: 2006-12-07 21:45:19
From: David W. Kesner
Dr. T. writes:

> So, right now, I am the only one who likes my modifications in this viewer

No, if or should I say when, I get this viewer those are the mods I would
also like.

Thanks,

David W. Kesner
Subject: Re: Interesting observation about rotary MF viewer
Date: 2006-12-07 21:56:00
From: DrT (George Themelis)
Today I got an even stranger request: Someone here in Cleveland wants the
coin operated version, but he wants to be set for Chinese coins! (I have no
idea why - neither he or his shop is Chinese). He also wants a bag of
Chinese coins to go with it. This last request appears to be the biggest
problem (3d world does not know if it is legal to export chinese coins).

George Themelis
Subject: TL120 waistlevel viewfinder
Date: 2006-12-08 19:36:57
From: Dale Yingst
I have been looking at Hasselblad waistlevel viewfinders for my TL120.
They all seem to price between $65 and $100 shipping included through
Ebay. So I got an as new Kiev88 finder for $20 total and it fits great
with just enough friction to keep it on but not enough if you try to
shake it off. It is very lightweight and seems to work great.

Dale Yingst
Subject: Re: TL120 waistlevel viewfinder
Date: 2006-12-08 21:59:03
From: Sam Smith
I ordered one of these as well, but it hasn't arrived yet.

I forgot to mention this previously. Hasselblad and Kiev finders will
fit, however they do NOT have the same locking mechanism the current
(!?) TL-120 finders have. In other words, you may have to prevent the
finder from sliding out. I'm planning on doing some serious hacking
with one of my TL-120s after the holiday.

Sam

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, Dale Yingst wrote:
>
> I have been looking at Hasselblad waistlevel viewfinders for my TL120.
> They all seem to price between $65 and $100 shipping included through
> Ebay. So I got an as new Kiev88 finder for $20 total and it fits
great
> with just enough friction to keep it on but not enough if you try to
> shake it off. It is very lightweight and seems to work great.
>
> Dale Yingst
>
Subject: Re: TL120 waistlevel viewfinder
Date: 2006-12-08 22:14:46
From: John Thurston
> Dale Yingst wrote:
> ... for my TL120.... got an as new Kiev88
> finder for $20 total and it fits great with
> just enough friction to keep it on but not
> enough if you try to shake it off. It is
> very lightweight and seems to work great.

Sam Smith wrote:
> Hasselblad and Kiev finders will fit,
> however they do NOT have the same locking
> mechanism the current (!?) TL-120 finders have.

Are you folks willing to share an image or
two with us on or off list of your TL120
and how the finders fit?
________________________________________
John Thurston
Juneau, Alaska
http://stereo.thurstons.us
Subject: Re: TL120 waistlevel viewfinder
Date: 2006-12-08 22:52:08
From: Dale Yingst
>
> Are you folks willing to share an image or
> two with us on or off list of your TL120
> and how the finders fit?
> ________________________________________
>





I'm posting an image in a couple of minutes, but the beauty is, there is
no adjustment. Just slide off the TL120 prism and slide this on. I
actually trust the waistlevel finder to stay on more, since the prism
TL120 finder is heavy and for me has a tendency to become unfastened and
possibly slide off. The Kiev finder is so light that when turned to 90
degrees will not slide off. All these finders are designed around I
guess the Hasselblad standard so they are all interchangeable. Photo
posted with my TL120 lens board photos. Being 6'5", the waist level
finder will be used for most tripod shots, but if the new Provia 400X is
as good as I've heard , I'll be hand holding for most shots. I'm lazy
that way.

Dale Yingst
>
>
Subject: Re: Interesting observation about rotary MF viewer
Date: 2006-12-19 13:50:35
From: coronet3d
--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "DrT \(George Themelis\)" 3d@...> wrote:
>
> Today I got an even stranger request: Someone here in Cleveland
wants the
> coin operated version, but he wants to be set for Chinese coins!
(I have no
> idea why - neither he or his shop is Chinese). He also wants a
bag of
> Chinese coins to go with it. This last request appears to be the
biggest
> problem (3d world does not know if it is legal to export chinese
coins).
>
Dr. T.,
He should just try to source some Chinese coins from a US coin
dealer. He just needs a sample to put in the machine. I've used US
quarters, dollars, nickels and Chuck-E-Cheese tokens. A dime is too
small however.
Steve
Subject: Re: Interesting observation about rotary MF viewer
Date: 2006-12-19 16:45:54
From: lattie_smart
--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "DrT \(George Themelis\)" 3d@...> wrote:
>
> Today I got an even stranger request: Someone here in Cleveland
wants the
> coin operated version, but he wants to be set for Chinese coins! (I
have no
> idea why - neither he or his shop is Chinese). He also wants a bag
of
> Chinese coins to go with it.

"Bikini Glamour" set?...or...maybe..."Ladyboys?!" ;-P
Subject: Re: Interesting observation about rotary MF viewer
Date: 2006-12-20 11:24:02
From: Henry Betge
We came back from China and Hong Kong and checked the
left coins. China has "YUAN" and H.K. use the Hong
Kong Dollar. First of all is important to know which
currency and coin value is requested for the MF
viewer. In mainland China the biggest is the 1
Yuan-coin (diameter of 25mm /1,86mm thick). Higher
values are only in bills. I tkink the smaller values
will not be needed for this viewer. The Hong Kong 1$
coin is a littele smaller (1" diameter / 1,86mm).
The 2$-coin circumfance has 12 waves giving 2
diameters between ups and downs ( 27,9 mm and 26,3mm /
1,8mm thick). The 5$-coin is (1 1/16" and 3,14mm)
thick. It exists also the 10$-coin, but now we have
not in hand, (about 20mm diameter and about 4mm
thick). The sizes are not absolute exact, I measured
on used coins. A sofisticated cashiermachine measures
also the weight and the magnetism. Only the Yuan 1$ is
magnetic.
I hope this information is helpful.

Henry Betge, Switzerland
Subject: Re: Interesting observation about rotary MF viewer
Date: 2006-12-20 18:55:29
From: coronet3d
The viewer I own uses a sample coin that is held in a tension
mechanism to set the price on the machine. The best way to see if a
coin will work is by trial and error. I'm sure Chinese coins are
available from coin dealers here in the US. There are many people who
collect coins of the world.
Steve