>Although maybe I'll toss two Dianas on a slide bar, just for my own entertainment.

If you don't already own the Dianas I would recommend that you get two Lubitels instead.
There are lots of these available on ebay for $30 or less. Lubitels should give you much
nicer results than a Diana. The Lubitel is essentially half of a Sputnik, and can be used for
spare lenses and other parts if you ever do try to fix up a Spud.

Jim Harp

jamesbharp wrote: >

>> Although maybe I'll toss two Dianas on a slide bar, just for my own entertainment.

> If you don't already own the Dianas I would recommend that you get two Lubitels instead.
> There are lots of these available on ebay for $30 or less. Lubitels should give you much
> nicer results than a Diana. The Lubitel is essentially half of a Sputnik, and can be used for
> spare lenses and other parts if you ever do try to fix up a Spud.

I agree with Jim H., and will add another point. The Diana is a cult
camera, which uses 120 film, but does produce undersized film chips
which are not large enough to fill our standard medium format 3D slide
mounts.


Best regards,

DON

While on the subject of Dianaesque cameras....

Anybody try MF3D with Holgas yet? Seems like that might be an
interesting experiment.... just wondering what the results are like
and how you went about doing it. I expect it wouldn't even be too
hard to mold two together to make a stereo camera.

--
-Timothy
http://frumiousboojum.deviantart.com

Tim,

It was done several years ago by a former folio member who's name
excapes me. The results were on par with the pinhole shots also shown
at the time, extremely soft and washed out. In other words, TERRIBLE!

Sam

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "Timothy Crabtree"
wrote:

>
> While on the subject of Dianaesque cameras....
>
> Anybody try MF3D with Holgas yet? Seems like that might be an
> interesting experiment.... just wondering what the results are like
> and how you went about doing it. I expect it wouldn't even be too
> hard to mold two together to make a stereo camera.
>
> --
> -Timothy
> http://frumiousboojum.deviantart.com
>

Have a look at this website.  There's a picture of a "Stereo Holga", along with many more interesting cameras.
 
http://phsne.org/stereocameras/35mm-rollfilm/35mm-rollfilm-2.htm
 
Ted

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To: MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com
From: frumiousboojum@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:30:38 -0500
Subject: Re: [MF3D-group] Where to toss Dianas

While on the subject of Dianaesque cameras....

Anybody try MF3D with Holgas yet? Seems like that might be an
interesting experiment.. .. just wondering what the results are like
and how you went about doing it. I expect it wouldn't even be too
hard to mold two together to make a stereo camera.

--
-Timothy
http://frumiousbooj um.deviantart. com

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Kiddding, people, about the Dianas.

We have a pile of them , and would be, a poor choice,

in almost every way, for twin stereo rigs.

Kidding,

Laura

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, Don Lopp wrote:
>
> jamesbharp wrote: >
>
> >> Although maybe I'll toss two Dianas on a slide bar, just for my own entertainment.
>
> > If you don't already own the Dianas I would recommend that you get two Lubitels
instead.
> > There are lots of these available on ebay for $30 or less. Lubitels should give you
much
> > nicer results than a Diana. The Lubitel is essentially half of a Sputnik, and can be
used for
> > spare lenses and other parts if you ever do try to fix up a Spud.
>
> I agree with Jim H., and will add another point. The Diana is a cult
> camera, which uses 120 film, but does produce undersized film chips
> which are not large enough to fill our standard medium format 3D slide
> mounts.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> DON
>

> Kiddding, people, about the Dianas.

Laura, you shouldn't be kiddding with a straight face :) People here take
MF3D photography seriously :) :)

George Themelis

I do not understand how a Holgas could be considered to be used as a
viable stereo camera.

My Holga has 1 shutter speed, 1 f/stop, single element lens, takes small
sized images, smaller than 6x6 cm, and smaller than 6x4.5cm.



Best regards,

DON

Hi George,

Apparenlty. I'll have to watch that in the future..

So, I was shooting yesterday, MF with a slide bar, and just masked off a 6x6 area, so that
will work just fine in the plastic mounts.
Today, I was wondering, since the actual film gets mounted, do people put sleeves around
the film, or around the mount to protect them ?

It still sort of freaks me out to use the actual film, normally I scan film and file it away
safely.

And, what is used for storage? I like the Realist drawers that have the little separations, so
the mounts never touch

is there a MF version ?

Thanks !

Laura

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "DrT \(George Themelis\)" wrote:
>
> > Kiddding, people, about the Dianas.
>
> Laura, you shouldn't be kiddding with a straight face :) People here take
> MF3D photography seriously :) :)
>
> George Themelis
>

ljophoto wrote:

> Today, I was wondering, since the actual film
> gets mounted, do people put sleeves around
> the film, or around the mount to protect them ?

Paul Talbot of RMM3D sells "archive sleeves" suitable
for use on 80x132 mounted slides. They don't fit well
on the 80x140 3D-World plastic mounts. I have quite
a few of these in inventory and could send you a few
to try out but it sounds like you are using 80x140
rather than 80x132.

Sam Smith has produced some sleeves for use on the
3D-World mounts. He spoke very recently of producing
a new run of these. I've seen one of these and was
impressed with the quality. I suspect I will be
mounting more views in 80x140 so I've put my name
down for a few of his next production.

> It still sort of freaks me out to use the actual
> film, normally I scan film and file it away safely.

It does freak some of my other photographic friends
when I describe the mounting process. It involves
verbs which most of them do not associate with their
photographic work-flow:
Cut
Fold
Tape
Glue
Trim
And the concept that I periodically get a slide
folio in the mail containing other's original
slides just blows their minds.

I found it hard to accept a while ago too.
When I asked how others dealt with potential
damage to their precious images and original
slides the response was:
"Shoot more film and make more great images."

>
> And, what is used for storage?

I use plastic 3-ring binder pages.
They aren't great but until I find a better way,
that's what I've got. I tried using boxes and
drawers but had a lot of difficulty in finding
anything in them again. With binder pages I
can pass my thin light-panel behind a page to
quickly find the slide I'm after.

________________________________________
John Thurston
Juneau, Alaska
http://stereo.thurstons.us

Hi John,

>
> ljophoto wrote:
> > Today, I was wondering, since the actual film
> > gets mounted, do people put sleeves around
> > the film, or around the mount to protect them ?
>
> Paul Talbot of RMM3D sells "archive sleeves" suitable
> for use on 80x132 mounted slides. They don't fit well
> on the 80x140 3D-World plastic mounts. I have quite
> a few of these in inventory and could send you a few
> to try out but it sounds like you are using 80x140
> rather than 80x132.

Thank you so much ! It turns out that I do have the 80x140 plastic 3D world ones,
and now that I look at them, it does say " Revised by Sam Smith"

>
> Sam Smith has produced some sleeves for use on the
> 3D-World mounts. He spoke very recently of producing
> a new run of these. I've seen one of these and was
> impressed with the quality. I suspect I will be
> mounting more views in 80x140 so I've put my name
> down for a few of his next production.

I think I will do the same.

>
> > It still sort of freaks me out to use the actual
> > film, normally I scan film and file it away safely.
>
> It does freak some of my other photographic friends
> when I describe the mounting process. It involves
> verbs which most of them do not associate with their
> photographic work-flow:
> Cut
> Fold
> Tape
> Glue
> Trim

I used the mounts for the first time today, and had to cut originals to fit.
My husband Eric, also a photographer, watched in horror, and said, in the style of an
overly dramatic soap opera, " I don't even know who you are anymore" and then,
"O , the humanity" and stomped away in a huff.

> And the concept that I periodically get a slide
> folio in the mail containing other's original
> slides just blows their minds.

Yeah, wow. get dizzy simply contemplating that, Shudder.

>
> I found it hard to accept a while ago too.

Very gently put. Would rather consume my own spleen.

> When I asked how others dealt with potential
> damage to their precious images and original
> slides the response was:
> "Shoot more film and make more great images."

Well, in a perfect world, sure. Under real world conditions: kinda tough.
I was shooting a job yesterday, with Clients who were kind enough to let me pop off
a few extra frames, but, wouldn't want to push that situation.

>
> >
> > And, what is used for storage?
>
> I use plastic 3-ring binder pages.
> They aren't great but until I find a better way,
> that's what I've got. I tried using boxes and
> drawers but had a lot of difficulty in finding
> anything in them again. With binder pages I
> can pass my thin light-panel behind a page to
> quickly find the slide I'm after.

That sounds great. What slide pages do you use, I mean what are they originally formatted
for ?

Thanks again for your help, John,

Laura Johansen

>
> ________________________________________
> John Thurston
> Juneau, Alaska
> http://stereo.thurstons.us
>

Oh Hey! That's my Stereo Holga. Made about 15 years ago. I believe I
took one color and one B&W roll with it. The results were actually not
too bad. Similar to the Puck or Eho anyway. If you have the "Reel 3D
News" from 1978-80 there is actually an article with pictures of a
Diana Stereo.
Laura, if you have a pile of Diana's you have a small fortune there.
They are selling for up to $150. Not bad for a $2 camera.

Rod S

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, Edwin Baskin wrote:
>
> Have a look at this website. There's a picture of a "Stereo Holga",
along with many more interesting cameras.
>
> http://phsne.org/stereocameras/35mm-rollfilm/35mm-rollfilm-2.htm
>
> Ted
>