Hi

A week ago I decided to go out and take some photos.
I removed the viewfinder and the batteries and took my trusty
lightmeter with me.

Yesterday when I got my film back it was almost completely black.
I could hardly se any sign of pictures.

Do I need to use batteries?

Do I need to use viewfinder?

I want to shoot from waist level but I don't want to buy a waistlevel
viewfinder.

Aren't the batteries just for lightmetering using the viewfinder?

My lightmeter works! Works with my other cameras.

Martin
Sweden

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "rimkopf" wrote:

> A week ago I decided to go out and take some photos.
> I removed the viewfinder and the batteries and took my trusty
> lightmeter with me.
>
> Yesterday when I got my film back it was almost completely black.
> I could hardly se any sign of pictures.
>
> Do I need to use batteries?
>
> Do I need to use viewfinder?
>
> I want to shoot from waist level but I don't want to buy a

waistlevel

> viewfinder.
>
> Aren't the batteries just for lightmetering using the viewfinder?
>
> My lightmeter works! Works with my other cameras.
>
> Martin
> Sweden
>

Hi Martin,

The batteries appear to be linked to the shutter in some way.

As far as I know, the removal of the batteries will limit the
shutter to 1/30th but will not go any slower than that. If you were
shooting much slower speeds than that, then that might explain your
dark results.


Harry.

What camera did you use?

Marshall

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From: "rimkopf" <rimkopf@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 8:37 AM
Subject: [MF3D-group] 3Dworld 120 -Why are my film almost black?


> Hi
>
> A week ago I decided to go out and take some photos.
> I removed the viewfinder and the batteries and took my trusty
> lightmeter with me.
>
> Yesterday when I got my film back it was almost completely black.
> I could hardly se any sign of pictures.
>
> Do I need to use batteries?
>
> Do I need to use viewfinder?
>
> I want to shoot from waist level but I don't want to buy a waistlevel
> viewfinder.
>
> Aren't the batteries just for lightmetering using the viewfinder?
>
> My lightmeter works! Works with my other cameras.
>
> Martin
> Sweden
>
>
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Martin,

The batteries run the electronic shutter. You can run the camera
without the meter, but not the batteries, as it has only one
mechanical speed of 1/30.

Sam

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "rimkopf" wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> A week ago I decided to go out and take some photos.
> I removed the viewfinder and the batteries and took my trusty
> lightmeter with me.
>
> Yesterday when I got my film back it was almost completely black.
> I could hardly se any sign of pictures.
>
> Do I need to use batteries?
>
> Do I need to use viewfinder?
>
> I want to shoot from waist level but I don't want to buy a waistlevel
> viewfinder.
>
> Aren't the batteries just for lightmetering using the viewfinder?
>
> My lightmeter works! Works with my other cameras.
>
> Martin
> Sweden
>

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com,

What camera did you use?

Marshall




3D world 120 second version I think

Martin

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The batteries appear to be linked to the shutter in some way.

As far as I know, the removal of the batteries will limit the
shutter to 1/30th but will not go any slower than that. If you were
shooting much slower speeds than that, then that might explain your
dark results.


Harry.



--

The batteries run the electronic shutter. You can run the camera
without the meter, but not the batteries, as it has only one
mechanical speed of 1/30.

Sam



It was a sunny day and I had the shutter set to 1/60, so it should be
brighter.
Guess I have to do some testing and firing away some more money.

Thanks
Martin

Hi all,
I just got my 3D World camera last week, so I guess you can call it a
« version 3 » model (new 45-degree finder w/ the small front window,
1/60 flash synch, etc.). It seems that without batteries, the
mechanical speed is around 1/500th second (not exactly good news),
which would explain why your slides were so dark: if it had been 1/30,
as it should be, chances are you probably would have ended up with
overexposed slides, not underexposed ones. I just hope that these
batteries last a while so I never have to use the camera at such a
high speed --and larger apertures.

Claude

Claude writes:

> I just got my 3D World camera last week, so I guess you can call it a «
> version 3 » model (new 45-degree finder w/ the small front window, 1/60
> flash synch, etc.)

Would it be possible for you to post some images of these new features
(the viewfinder, shutter release lock, general camera, etc.)?

If you do not have web space or want to upload to the list you can email
them to me and I would be happy to put up a page on my website. This goes
for anyone else that might have some images.

Of course the best place for them would be John Thurston's site that is
already so full of great stuff on the TL120 (and other things).

Thanks,

David W. Kesner

Sure David,
I've posted a few pics of the newest model in the Photo section under
"Tl 120, model 3.5".
Cheers,
Claude

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "David W. Kesner" wrote:
>
> Claude writes:
>
> > I just got my 3D World camera last week, so I guess you can call
it a «
> > version 3 » model (new 45-degree finder w/ the small front window,
1/60
> > flash synch, etc.)
>
> Would it be possible for you to post some images of these new features
> (the viewfinder, shutter release lock, general camera, etc.)?
>
> If you do not have web space or want to upload to the list you can
email
> them to me and I would be happy to put up a page on my website. This
goes
> for anyone else that might have some images.
>
> Of course the best place for them would be John Thurston's site that is
> already so full of great stuff on the TL120 (and other things).
>
> Thanks,
>
> David W. Kesner
>

Claude writes:

> I've posted a few pics of the newest model in the Photo section

I don't see anything external to lock the shutter button so I assume it
is an internal modifictaion?

Thanks,

David W. Kesner

Yes, it's internal. You just need to push the lever all the way back.

Claude

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "David W. Kesner" wrote:
>
> Claude writes:
>
> > I've posted a few pics of the newest model in the Photo section
>
> I don't see anything external to lock the shutter button so I assume it
> is an internal modifictaion?
>
> Thanks,
>
> David W. Kesner
>