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Subject: New TL-120 model
Date: 2007-09-04 06:47:20
From: jamesbharp

George, does this new TL-120 camera have a shutter lock? If it does, do you know if there's
any way to get the factory shutter-lock mechanism installed on an older camera purchased
by a brave "early-adopter"? I would gladly send my camera back to the factory for this.
Although John Thurston has come up with some clever work-arounds I take a lot of long
exposures and need to use a cable release. I still manage to waste shots due to accidental
shutter firing far too often, mostly while I rapidly wind the film. Why am I so often rapidly
winding the film? Because I'm afraid to advance the film right after shooting because of how
easy it is to accidentally fire the shutter, and thus the $%&*^% camera is never ready to take
an interesting shot when one materializes.

Are there any other new features of interest? I assume the smallest aperture is still f22.

Thanks

Jim Harp

Subject: Re: New TL-120 model
Date: 2007-09-04 17:49:40
From: Harry Calderbank

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "jamesbharp" wrote:
Because I'm afraid to advance the film right after shooting
because of how
> easy it is to accidentally fire the shutter, and thus the $%&*^%
camera is never ready to take
> an interesting shot when one materializes.

Can anyone of those who have trouble with accidental firing of the
shutter tell me how you actually do it? I'm curious to find out
exactly what circumstances lead to regular accidental pushing of the
button. At the extreme risk of sounding like a smart-alec (apologies
if I do) I still haven't managed to fire it off accidentally (after
more than 100 films), despite the fact that I wind the film on after
every shot in readiness for the next one.

Maybe I'm just lucky (I must be, because I am sensationally clumsy!)
and perhaps my shutter button is much less sensitive, which I guess
is a distinct possibility.

I'm sorry this post isn't actually offering any help other than the
obvious "be careful all the time and it won't happen". A simple
change in the habits you have in handling your camera might be a
whole lot cheaper and easier than attempting any mechanical fixes.

Best of luck.

Harry Calderbank

Subject: Re: New TL-120 model
Date: 2007-09-04 18:43:31
From: Mike Bittner

I just got my new & improved model last Friday. It's a pleasure to
work with. Using the camera, I thought it was nicely designed and have
no complaints yet.

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "jamesbharp" wrote:
>
> George, does this new TL-120 camera have a shutter lock?

No it doesn't; advance the film and it's ready to go. After carrying
around all weekend and shooting 5 test rolls (including a swamp walk
on Saturday), I didn't trigger the shutter accidentally once. It needs
a good, firm press to trigger it.

> Are there any other new features of interest?

A sunshade is included ... great for Florida. The prism attachment and
the mounting jig were allegedly redesigned.

>I assume the smallest aperture is still f22.

Yes.

I'll try and answer questions with pictures if anyone wants.

Mike Bittner

Subject: Re: New TL-120 model
Date: 2007-09-04 20:16:41
From: John Thurston

Mike Bittner wrote:

> I just got my new & improved model last Friday.

.... snip ....

> I'll try and answer questions with pictures if anyone wants.

Pictures, please!

I'd love to update the information on my web pages as
it is now a year old. Any information you can offer
regarding the prism, its attachment, the metering, film
advance, spool retention would be appreciated.
________________________________________
John Thurston
Juneau, Alaska
http://stereo.thurstons.us

Subject: Latest TL-120 mystery camera
Date: 2007-09-04 21:59:00
From: Michael K. Davis

I'm going to beat this dead horse some more....

Is it unreasonable to request that 3DWorld simply DESCRIBE what they
are selling?

3DWorld's web site still shows pictures of an older TL-120. Why are
we having to rely on hearsay specifications ferreted out amongst ourselves?

I just spent about ten minutes looking for an e-mail address so that
I could request specifications directly, but I can't find any contact
info. Am I the only person who finds their business practices
self-defeating?

Mike Davis

Subject: Re: Latest TL-120 mystery camera
Date: 2007-09-05 04:35:04
From: Mike Bittner

Michael K. Davis wrote:

> I'm going to beat this dead horse some more....
>
> Is it unreasonable to request that 3DWorld simply DESCRIBE what they
> are selling?
>
> 3DWorld's web site still shows pictures of an older TL-120. Why are
> we having to rely on hearsay specifications ferreted out amongst ourselves?
>
> I just spent about ten minutes looking for an e-mail address so that
> I could request specifications directly, but I can't find any contact
> info. Am I the only person who finds their business practices
> self-defeating?
>
> Mike Davis
>

Maybe you should look at the page on 3dstereo.com for pics & info of the
new model.

http://www.3dstereo.com/viewmaster/cam-tl120ii.html

I know that their e-mail had a list of improvements when it was
announced. Perhaps you can get info from them or a copy of that
newsletter. Mine looks different than John Thurston's pages, so I'll try
and take some stereo shots of the TL-120 to share.

Mike Bittner.