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Subject: Boxes for 3D World MF Slides
Date: 2007-10-13 22:40:01
From: Peter Thomson
Hi All, further to my last mail, here is a little detail and CAD
renderings.
http://tech.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/MF3D-group/photos/browse/2edc

The box will a leather grain look, not necessarily the colour shown.
Materials I have stated must be archival quality, especially the glues
used. Cardboard will be 2 x 1.5mm. Lettering hot gold stamped.
Anyone interested?

Happy 3D-ing, Peter
Subject: Boxes for 3D World MF Slides
Date: 2007-10-14 08:15:06
From: David W. Kesner
Peter qwrites:

> Anyone interested?

From the drawings it looks like a tight fit. Will you be able to fit
slides with protective sleeves on them? These will make them a bit
thicker and taller, but not wider.

Thanks,

David W. Kesner
Subject: Re: Boxes for 3D World MF Slides
Date: 2007-10-14 13:45:54
From: Peter Thomson
Hi David,
 
There will be a nominal 1mm clearance in all dimensions. With the sleeves, which I havn't seen, I would imagine it would become a box for 11.
Personally, I wouldn't use sleeves for several reasons, and certainly not for my business customers for which the box is prinarily for. If there is enough interest though, I could alter the dimensions slightly to accomodate everyone, but by no more than 0.5mm in height as they would rattle around too much.
 
 
    Peter
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 12:14 AM
Subject: [MF3D-group] Re:Boxes for 3D World MF Slides

Peter qwrites:

> Anyone interested?

From the drawings it looks like a tight fit. Will you be able to fit
slides with protective sleeves on them? These will make them a bit
thicker and taller, but not wider.

Thanks,

David W. Kesner

Subject: Re: Boxes for 3D World MF Slides
Date: 2007-10-15 12:08:46
From: John Thurston
Peter Thomson wrote:

> The box will a leather grain look, not necessarily the
> colour shown. Materials I have stated must be archival
> quality, especially the glues used. Cardboard will be
> 2 x 1.5mm. Lettering hot gold stamped.

Peter, it looks like a good design but I'm wondering to what
purpose they will be put? Do you have a current business
need for these?

For my personal use, I'd prefer clear binder pages into
which I could put my images and visually scan for the image
I wanted.
--
John Thurston
Juneau Alaska
http://stereo.thurstons.us
Subject: Re: Boxes for 3D World MF Slides
Date: 2007-10-15 13:37:39
From: Peter Thomson
Hi John, yes, I have kicked off a part-time business and need a box to present product to customers in. 3D Treasures is my business name.
I also like the idea of neat storage away from harmful chemicals which can come off some plastics, especially vinyls, which can alter the emulsion over time.
Most photographers have a need to give away some work occassionally as well. Also, I like to catalogue my pictures on the computer with a thumbnail, and referenced to a numbered box in which it resides. This makes flicking through and finding a certain image MUCH quicker.   Box price looks like it will be very attractive, especially if someone in the US would like to take on a shipment from China direct and cut the double shipping costs.  Peter
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 4:08 AM
Subject: Re: [MF3D-group] Boxes for 3D World MF Slides

Peter Thomson wrote:

> The box will a leather grain look, not necessarily the
> colour shown. Materials I have stated must be archival
> quality, especially the glues used. Cardboard will be
> 2 x 1.5mm. Lettering hot gold stamped.

Peter, it looks like a good design but I'm wondering to what
purpose they will be put? Do you have a current business
need for these?

For my personal use, I'd prefer clear binder pages into
which I could put my images and visually scan for the image
I wanted.
--
John Thurston
Juneau Alaska
http://stereo. thurstons. us

Subject: Re: Boxes for 3D World MF Slides
Date: 2007-10-15 13:52:26
From: John Thurston
Peter Thomson wrote:
> Hi John, yes, I have kicked off a part-time business and
> need a box to present product to customers in.

Then I suggest you consider modifying your box slightly.

Put a wedge shaped filler at the bottom of your box to cause
the stored slides to be "stepped" just a bit. This will make
it easier to grab a slide and lift it out of the box. If
you place a matching wedge in the lid of the box, it will
make your lid directional, but it will keep the slides from
jumping around inside the box. Placing your logo on the
front of the lid would make it east to reposition it correctly.

--
John Thurston
Juneau Alaska
http://stereo.thurstons.us
Subject: Re: Boxes for 3D World MF Slides
Date: 2007-10-16 02:31:59
From: Peter Thomson
Hi John,
 
        I had thought of that, but on CAD found that the amount of difference in height between slides even with a 20 degree slope, which I considered would have to be solid, would make negligible difference to getting them out. The best way will always be grabbing from the side, it doesn't matter really if a a few have to be removed so the others come out a little easier. No matter what you do, some will love it, some will hate it, but hey, it's just a box, not a display case.
 
    Happy 3D-ing,  Peter
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 5:52 AM
Subject: Re: [MF3D-group] Boxes for 3D World MF Slides

Peter Thomson wrote:
> Hi John, yes, I have kicked off a part-time business and
> need a box to present product to customers in.

Then I suggest you consider modifying your box slightly.

Put a wedge shaped filler at the bottom of your box to cause
the stored slides to be "stepped" just a bit. This will make
it easier to grab a slide and lift it out of the box. If
you place a matching wedge in the lid of the box, it will
make your lid directional, but it will keep the slides from
jumping around inside the box. Placing your logo on the
front of the lid would make it east to reposition it correctly.

--
John Thurston
Juneau Alaska
http://stereo. thurstons. us

Subject: Re: Boxes for 3D World MF Slides
Date: 2007-10-16 14:01:13
From: David Damico
It seems that designing something in CAD is over-thinking something basic. If you consider that the variables may change from the slide manufacturer's side (as is the case with their camera), something with such absolutely tight criteria seems like a dog chasing its own tail.

David

On 10/16/07, Peter Thomson <p.tho1181@bigpond.com> wrote:

Hi John,
 
        I had thought of that, but on CAD found that the amount of difference in height between slides even with a 20 degree slope, ...No matter what you do, some will love it, some will hate it, but hey, it's just a box, not a display case.
 
    Happy 3D-ing,  Peter

Subject: Re: Boxes for 3D World MF Slides
Date: 2007-10-17 05:39:34
From: Peter Thomson
Now there is really deeeeeep creative flat line thinking !
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [MF3D-group] Boxes for 3D World MF Slides

It seems that designing something in CAD is over-thinking something basic. If you consider that the variables may change from the slide manufacturer's side (as is the case with their camera), something with such absolutely tight criteria seems like a dog chasing its own tail.

David

On 10/16/07, Peter Thomson <p.tho1181@bigpond. com> wrote:

Hi John,
 
        I had thought of that, but on CAD found that the amount of difference in height between slides even with a 20 degree slope, ...No matter what you do, some will love it, some will hate it, but hey, it's just a box, not a display case.
 
    Happy 3D-ing,  Peter

Subject: Re: Boxes for 3D World MF Slides
Date: 2007-10-17 20:10:53
From: Harry Calderbank
--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "David Damico"
wrote:
>
> It seems that designing something in CAD is over-thinking something
basic.

Overthinking something basic? I wasn't aware the method used to design
the box was in question (or deserving of criticism)? Personally, I'm
glad that someone has taken the time and trouble to design something
(by whatever means) that might be of use to some of us who are looking
for such a neat little presentation box. At this stage, I'm not aware
of anything else specifically designed for MF slides.

Well done Peter. I'm interested.

Harry Calderbank
hcalderbank@bigpond.com
Subject: Re: Boxes for 3D World MF Slides
Date: 2007-10-17 21:55:46
From: Peter Thomson
--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "Harry Calderbank"
wrote:
>
> --- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "David Damico"
> wrote:
> >
> > It seems that designing something in CAD is over-thinking something
> basic.
>
> Overthinking something basic? I wasn't aware the method used to
design
> the box was in question (or deserving of criticism)? >
> Well done Peter. I'm interested.
>
> Harry Calderbank
> hcalderbank@...
>

Thanks Harry, I was starting to think what a hard to please lot these
MF3D'ers are, nothing but criticism. Someone who thinks that designing
in CAD is "over-thinking" is way out of touch with the modern world.
What do they think a manufacturer, in another country, want to see for
plans on what they are being asked to manufacture accurately to
specifications, a crayon sketch on the back of a beer coaster?
I'm glad somebody appreciates what I'm trying to offer them at rock
bottom price. I'm not doing this box to make a stack of money out of
it, just to have an elegant presentation box for my small business, and
sell off the excess from the manufacturers minimum order. If there was
significant interest, a larger order could be placed to bring the cost
down even more.

Cheers to you Harry!
Happy 3D-ing, Peter