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Subject: best practices for a Spuntik in worse environments too shoot in?
Date: 2007-10-31 03:46:58
From: Mark
Hi

Any suggestions for a new Sputnik user? I've done a nightclub and a band
shoot. Plan to shoot bonfire night parading in Lewes next monday and have
20+ rolls of film.

Got a small flashlight but maybe a led with a switch taped near the window
would be better as it spares up a hand.

Also optimum f stop and focal distance so I don't need to attempt to focus?

M
Subject: Re: best practices for a Spuntik in worse environments too shoot in?
Date: 2007-11-01 14:52:10
From: roderickdsage
What speed is your film? Do you plan to use a tripod/monopod, flash?
Considering that you want foreground in your stereo photo, and you
probably won't have much DOF with a 75mm lens. I am looking at the
DOF calculator here:
http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html
I would set the focus about 15 feet and plan your near foreground at
about 11 feet and rear focus to about 20 feet. That would give you an
f stop of at least f 8. DOF gets worse the closer you get. With that
you will have a shutter speed I'm guessing of 1/10 or 1/15 depending
on your Spud (some are 1/10-1/100 and others are 1/15 to 1/125) and
how bright the fire is. I rarely use anything above asa 100, and
would definate use a monopod at 1/10 and 1/25 and f5.6-8. Movement of
the fire and spectators may be excessive at 1/10. These are just
estimates and would vary with light, subject etc.. It seems that the
DOF calculator is a bit conservative, and you may get usable subjects
either side of the distance values. If you have a tripod you may get
some cool photos at f22 for several seconds.

Rod S



--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Any suggestions for a new Sputnik user? I've done a nightclub and a
band
> shoot. Plan to shoot bonfire night parading in Lewes next monday
and have
> 20+ rolls of film.
>
> Got a small flashlight but maybe a led with a switch taped near the
window
> would be better as it spares up a hand.
>
> Also optimum f stop and focal distance so I don't need to attempt
to focus?
>
> M
>
Subject: Re: best practices for a Spuntik in worse environments too shoot in?
Date: 2007-11-03 16:59:53
From: rmacleay
--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" wrote:
> Got a small flashlight but maybe a led with a switch taped near the window
> would be better as it spares up a hand.

If you go for an LED, make it a red one (or *maybe* white).

I tried blue once only to discover once I was in the dark that I couldn't see the numbers on
the film!
Subject: Re: best practices for a Spuntik in worse environments too shoot in?
Date: 2007-11-05 02:25:13
From: Mark
--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "rmacleay" wrote:
>
> --- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" wrote:
> > Got a small flashlight but maybe a led with a switch taped near the
window
> > would be better as it spares up a hand.
>
> If you go for an LED, make it a red one (or *maybe* white).
>
> I tried blue once only to discover once I was in the dark that I couldn't see
the numbers on
> the film!

i'll take th esmal penlight with me and it should be ok. I checked it against the
6x9 windown and I could read the numbers fine

M
Subject: Re: best practices for a Spuntik in worse environments too shoot in?
Date: 2007-11-05 02:29:19
From: Mark
> What speed is your film?

I bought a stack of out of date Agfa 200 asa which I ratre at 320. its a bit grainy
but it was only 90p a roll.

>Do you plan to use a tripod/monopod, flash?

just a metz flash - 45ct4

> Considering that you want foreground in your stereo photo, and you
> probably won't have much DOF with a 75mm lens. I am looking at the
> DOF calculator here:
> http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html

thanks for the link. from my memory of test shoots so far using the min focus
and f/8 gives me like a metere of focus.

> I would set the focus about 15 feet and plan your near foreground at
> about 11 feet and rear focus to about 20 feet. That would give you an
> f stop of at least f 8. DOF gets worse the closer you get. With that

sounds good.

> you will have a shutter speed I'm guessing of 1/10 or 1/15 depending
> on your Spud (some are 1/10-1/100 and others are 1/15 to 1/125) and
> how bright the fire is. I rarely use anything above asa 100, and

its less the fire and more the marching around with burning crosses. here's
some older realist scans I shot at the same event:

http://www.alchemicalshadows.com/port_3d/3dmisc/port_3dmisc.htm

> would definate use a monopod at 1/10 and 1/25 and f5.6-8. Movement of
> the fire and spectators may be excessive at 1/10. These are just
> estimates and would vary with light, subject etc.. It seems that the
> DOF calculator is a bit conservative, and you may get usable subjects
> either side of the distance values. If you have a tripod you may get
> some cool photos at f22 for several seconds.

going to have to be all hand held as the space is incredibly tight for a tripod or
even monopod.

cheers

M
Subject: Re: best practices for a Spuntik in worse environments too shoot in?
Date: 2007-11-06 06:23:48
From: Mark
Hi All

Well I did the shoot last night, about 6 rolls of film in total. Damn was it hard.
People moving, lit by torch light, trying to advance film and use all the little
mechanisms on the camera.

Mailing off the films later week and should have them back in a week or more.
Its really a bit of luck and parading smuglers and vikings is prob the hardest
thing to shoot _quickly_ with such a totally manuall camera.

I also noticed I had moved the f-stop bar a couple of times.

We'll see when they're back

M