I too would be interested in anyone's measurements.  I have started the same project but work waylaid me for a few months.  Sam Smith also has some measurements which I found useful so far, if he wants to camp on.

-kp




Dr. Kevin Pernicano
Louisville, KY, USA (Home of the Kentucky Derby)

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--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Kevin Pernicano"
wrote:

>
> I too would be interested in anyone's measurements. I have started

the same project but work waylaid me for a few months. Sam Smith also
has some measurements which I found useful so far, if he wants to camp on.

>
> -kp
>
>

Kevin (or any others I've passed on info too)

I have absolutely no problem with details I passed on in off-list
emails. I started with an extra board I received from 3DWorld and then
cast with resin the barrels. I then machined the barrels for an exact fit.

With my project I was looking for a set 14 foot focus, therefore I
didn't have to worry about infinity, which may indeed hit the shutter
board. I have not heard of anyone actually building a focusing version
of the TL-120 using 55mm lenses. It wasn't a concern in my case, as at
F22, all was in focus. Although it would be nice to be able to focus
as well, in my case was not worth the effort.

Linkage was easy however, as I used ball links for model airplanes. I
posted an email in the camerahackers group regarding this. Please also
have a look in the PHOTOS section of this group under "TL-120 Wide Angle".

I'd be happy to answer any questions about my rig.


Sam

> Linkage was easy however, as I used ball links for model airplanes. I
> posted an email in the camerahackers group regarding this. Please also
> have a look in the PHOTOS section of this group under "TL-120 Wide
> Angle".

Sam, is the link at the bottom? It cannot be seen very well in the
picture. I am wondering how you are holding the ball links into the
lenses.

Thanks,

George

George,

I just added another file to the previous "TL-120 Wide Angle" title in
the PHOTOS section. This should help in showing how I did it.

Sam

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "DrT \(George Themelis\)"
wrote:

>
> > Linkage was easy however, as I used ball links for model airplanes. I
> > posted an email in the camerahackers group regarding this. Please also
> > have a look in the PHOTOS section of this group under "TL-120 Wide
> > Angle".
>
> Sam, is the link at the bottom? It cannot be seen very well in the
> picture. I am wondering how you are holding the ball links into the
> lenses.
>
> Thanks,
>
> George
>

> I just added another file to the previous "TL-120 Wide Angle" title in
> the PHOTOS section. This should help in showing how I did it.

Yes, I see... So, this metal plate was part of the lens or you attached it
to the lens with the screws?

I have a 35mm camera that uses similar links. You can see it here:
http://drt3d.blogspot.com/2008/02/blog-post.html

Apparently, this guy used some kind of brass ring around the lens,
tightened with two screws. That's a good system because it can be
adjusted easily and removed at will and does not alter the lenses (except
for the rubber ring that has been removed). I would like to use this
system for other pairs of lenses, but I need to find something similar to
this brass ring.

George

Just opened up my brand new tl-120 today. Impressive package! I immediately shot 2 rolls and sent them off for processing, some outdoor shots with velvia and some indoor shots with flash and astia. Looking forward to the results. I've been reading this message board for the last year and have been shooting stereo with a realist and two film cameras, but i finally took the plunge for medium format.

One question, How do I lock the shutter release? I tried pushing the frame advance lever against the body but ended firing the shutter when I tested it.

Thanks,
Nik

sekharni wrote:

> Just opened up my brand new tl-120 today. Impressive package!

The camera is impressive. The images you can make are even
more impressive :)

> One question, How do I lock the shutter release?

There was only a short period of time wherein 3D World
implemented the advance-lever/shutter-button interlock. I
have not heard of any for at least two years.

I use a "Softie" and a small piece of neoprene to lock mine.
http://stereo.thurstons.us/ShutterLock.htm

Where are you located, Nik?

--
John Thurston
Juneau Alaska
http://stereo.thurstons.us

John,
Thanks for your prompt reply, The sample slides that were sent with the camera are really stunning, I can't wait to get mine back! I am located in Neenah Wisconsin, on the sunny shore of Lake Winnebago. Thank you for the great information on your website I've referred to it often over the last few months.

Nik

your softie and neoprene idea is brilliant btw

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, John Thurston wrote:
>
> sekharni wrote:
> > Just opened up my brand new tl-120 today. Impressive package!
>
> The camera is impressive. The images you can make are even
> more impressive :)
>
> > One question, How do I lock the shutter release?
>
> There was only a short period of time wherein 3D World
> implemented the advance-lever/shutter-button interlock. I
> have not heard of any for at least two years.
>
> I use a "Softie" and a small piece of neoprene to lock mine.
> http://stereo.thurstons.us/ShutterLock.htm
>
> Where are you located, Nik?
>
> --
> John Thurston
> Juneau Alaska
> http://stereo.thurstons.us
>

sekharni wrote:

> John,
> Thanks for your prompt reply, The sample slides that were sent with the camera are really stunning,

Oi' if you think _those_ are stunning, wait until you see
some of your own images. They're gonna knock your socks off
:) The samples are good, but they are dupes and their
mounting often leaves much to be desired.

Leme know off-list if you need any mounts to get you started.

--
John Thurston
Juneau Alaska
http://stereo.thurstons.us

I got my first two rolls back . Wow! This is one sharp camera, I have never seen such sharp 3d images before, I love this camera and can't wait to shoot some colorful scenery with it.
These 2 rolls were mainly handheld, outdoors at 1/100 and hyperfocal f11 to f14 and indoors f11 and auto f11 flash at around 2 meters. All really really sharp. I was too excited to shoot any with a tripod on these rolls.
I can't find a single flaw with these lenses. I am going to be buying a lot of film.
I have a trip to vegas in march I can't wait to take some pictures while i am there. The scenery should be a little more colorful than wintry scenes in Wisconsin.
Getting my 3rd roll back tommorrow which has some closeups and a shot with cable release and tripod.

Thanks,
Nik

Hi

Keep stocked up with batteries and swap them over regularly.

I'm doing it every 10-15 rolls.

Batteries are cheap, film, processing and time isn't. Also you can stick them in a penlight as they won't be dead, just no longer optimal.

M

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "sekharni" wrote:
>
>
> I got my first two rolls back . Wow! This is one sharp camera, I have never seen such sharp 3d images before, I love this camera and can't wait to shoot some colorful scenery with it.
> These 2 rolls were mainly handheld, outdoors at 1/100 and hyperfocal f11 to f14 and indoors f11 and auto f11 flash at around 2 meters. All really really sharp. I was too excited to shoot any with a tripod on these rolls.
> I can't find a single flaw with these lenses. I am going to be buying a lot of film.
> I have a trip to vegas in march I can't wait to take some pictures while i am there. The scenery should be a little more colorful than wintry scenes in Wisconsin.
> Getting my 3rd roll back tommorrow which has some closeups and a shot with cable release and tripod.
>
> Thanks,
> Nik
>

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Mark <blackice@pavilion.co.uk> wrote:

 

Hi

Keep stocked up with batteries and swap them over regularly.

I'm doing it every 10-15 rolls.

Batteries are cheap, film, processing and time isn't. Also you can stick them in a penlight as they won't be dead, just no longer optimal.

M

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "sekharni" wrote:
>
>
> I got my first two rolls back . Wow! This is one sharp camera, I have never seen such sharp 3d images before, I love this camera and can't wait to shoot some colorful scenery with it.
> These 2 rolls were mainly handheld, outdoors at 1/100 and hyperfocal f11 to f14 and indoors f11 and auto f11 flash at around 2 meters. All really really sharp. I was too excited to shoot any with a tripod on these rolls.
> I can't find a single flaw with these lenses. I am going to be buying a lot of film.
> I have a trip to vegas in march I can't wait to take some pictures while i am there. The scenery should be a little more colorful than wintry scenes in Wisconsin.
> Getting my 3rd roll back tommorrow which has some closeups and a shot with cable release and tripod.
>
> Thanks,
> Nik
>

Hello Nik,

> I love this camera and can't wait
> to shoot some colorful scenery with it.

You should also think about shooting some B&W positives with it. Using
B&W negative film and reverse processing it can give some truly dramatic
results.

There is a company called dr5 that does a really great job on many
different types of film. Here is the link to the page with all the films
they process:

http://www.dr5.com/blackandwhiteslide/filmreview.html

I used Kodak Tech Pan 2415 with exceptional results until Kodak stopped
making it. Until recently there has been nothing that comes close to it.
However it now looks like Rollei may have a film that is very close:

http://www.dr5.com/blackandwhiteslide/atp.html

I have not had a chance to try it yet, but do plan to.

Good luck,

David W. Kesner
Boise, Idaho, USA

David,
That sounds really interesting. What subjects were you shooting, how does the grain compare to e6 film and what iso were you using?
Thanks,
Nik

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "David W. Kesner" wrote:
>
> Hello Nik,
>
> > I love this camera and can't wait
> > to shoot some colorful scenery with it.
>
> You should also think about shooting some B&W positives with it. Using
> B&W negative film and reverse processing it can give some truly dramatic
> results.
>
> There is a company called dr5 that does a really great job on many
> different types of film. Here is the link to the page with all the films
> they process:
>
> http://www.dr5.com/blackandwhiteslide/filmreview.html
>
> I used Kodak Tech Pan 2415 with exceptional results until Kodak stopped
> making it. Until recently there has been nothing that comes close to it.
> However it now looks like Rollei may have a film that is very close:
>
> http://www.dr5.com/blackandwhiteslide/atp.html
>
> I have not had a chance to try it yet, but do plan to.
>
> Good luck,
>
> David W. Kesner
> Boise, Idaho, USA
>

is this the film
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/419439-REG/Rollei_3222001_1_Pan_25_120mm_Black.html ?

Thanks,
Nik

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "David W. Kesner" wrote:
>
> Hello Nik,
>
> > I love this camera and can't wait
> > to shoot some colorful scenery with it.
>
> You should also think about shooting some B&W positives with it. Using
> B&W negative film and reverse processing it can give some truly dramatic
> results.
>
> There is a company called dr5 that does a really great job on many
> different types of film. Here is the link to the page with all the films
> they process:
>
> http://www.dr5.com/blackandwhiteslide/filmreview.html
>
> I used Kodak Tech Pan 2415 with exceptional results until Kodak stopped
> making it. Until recently there has been nothing that comes close to it.
> However it now looks like Rollei may have a film that is very close:
>
> http://www.dr5.com/blackandwhiteslide/atp.html
>
> I have not had a chance to try it yet, but do plan to.
>
> Good luck,
>
> David W. Kesner
> Boise, Idaho, USA
>

is this the film
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/419439-REG/Rollei_3222001_1_Pan_25_120mm_Black.html ?

Thanks,
Nik

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "David W. Kesner" wrote:
>
> Hello Nik,
>
> > I love this camera and can't wait
> > to shoot some colorful scenery with it.
>
> You should also think about shooting some B&W positives with it. Using
> B&W negative film and reverse processing it can give some truly dramatic
> results.
>
> There is a company called dr5 that does a really great job on many
> different types of film. Here is the link to the page with all the films
> they process:
>
> http://www.dr5.com/blackandwhiteslide/filmreview.html
>
> I used Kodak Tech Pan 2415 with exceptional results until Kodak stopped
> making it. Until recently there has been nothing that comes close to it.
> However it now looks like Rollei may have a film that is very close:
>
> http://www.dr5.com/blackandwhiteslide/atp.html
>
> I have not had a chance to try it yet, but do plan to.
>
> Good luck,
>
> David W. Kesner
> Boise, Idaho, USA
>

or is it this one?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/473101-REG/Rollei_3721001_1_Ortho_120_Black_and.html

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "David W. Kesner" wrote:
>
> Hello Nik,
>
> > I love this camera and can't wait
> > to shoot some colorful scenery with it.
>
> You should also think about shooting some B&W positives with it. Using
> B&W negative film and reverse processing it can give some truly dramatic
> results.
>
> There is a company called dr5 that does a really great job on many
> different types of film. Here is the link to the page with all the films
> they process:
>
> http://www.dr5.com/blackandwhiteslide/filmreview.html
>
> I used Kodak Tech Pan 2415 with exceptional results until Kodak stopped
> making it. Until recently there has been nothing that comes close to it.
> However it now looks like Rollei may have a film that is very close:
>
> http://www.dr5.com/blackandwhiteslide/atp.html
>
> I have not had a chance to try it yet, but do plan to.
>
> Good luck,
>
> David W. Kesner
> Boise, Idaho, USA
>

Hello Nik,

> What subjects were you shooting,

Anything that looks good in B&W. *{;-)

> how does the grain compare to e6 film

There basically isn't ANY detectable grain.

> and what iso were you using?

This is the bad part. I was using the Tech Pan at an EI of 12. The Rollei
ATP is to be used at an EI of 8. Of course this can be varied with
different results in different developers and times. Read the dr5 for
more info and suggestions.

Thanks,



David W. Kesner
Boise, Idaho, USA

Hello Nik,

> is this the film
> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/419439-REG/Rollei_3222001_1_Pan_25_1
> 20mm_Black.html ?

No. The Tech Pan like replacement is Rollei ATP 1.1. The ATP stands for
Advanced Technical Pan.

Here it is on B&H:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=rollei+atp&N=0&InitialSearch=yes

Hope that helps.

David W. Kesner
Boise, Idaho, USA

I wrotes:

> Here it is on B&H:
>
> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=rollei+atp&N=0&InitialSearch=yes

Whoops, that is the 35mm. Looks like they do not carry the 120mm.

You can get it from Maco direct (in Europe):

http://macodirect.de/roll-film-c-1_6_56_263_394.html

or from Freestyle photo:

http://www.freestylephoto.biz/sc_search.php

Sorry about the confusion.



David W. Kesner
Boise, Idaho, USA

Thanks, for all of this great info. I really appreceiate it, I'm tempted to order a box of the film from Germany!

Nik

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "sekharni" wrote:
>
> or is it this one?
>
> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/473101-REG/Rollei_3721001_1_Ortho_120_Black_and.html
>
>
>
> --- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "David W. Kesner" wrote:
> >
> > Hello Nik,
> >
> > > I love this camera and can't wait
> > > to shoot some colorful scenery with it.
> >
> > You should also think about shooting some B&W positives with it. Using
> > B&W negative film and reverse processing it can give some truly dramatic
> > results.
> >
> > There is a company called dr5 that does a really great job on many
> > different types of film. Here is the link to the page with all the films
> > they process:
> >
> > http://www.dr5.com/blackandwhiteslide/filmreview.html
> >
> > I used Kodak Tech Pan 2415 with exceptional results until Kodak stopped
> > making it. Until recently there has been nothing that comes close to it.
> > However it now looks like Rollei may have a film that is very close:
> >
> > http://www.dr5.com/blackandwhiteslide/atp.html
> >
> > I have not had a chance to try it yet, but do plan to.
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > David W. Kesner
> > Boise, Idaho, USA
> >
>

You can use pretty much any B&W film. Check dr5.com for his recommendations.  TMax 100 and 400 work too.  You don't need an exotic film to test it out.  They do look fantastic!  You'll love them.  I use them in the wintertime when there isn't much color around here anyway.

Aaron

sekharni wrote:

 

Thanks, for all of this great info. I really appreceiate it, I'm tempted to order a box of the film from Germany!

Nik

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogro ups.com, "sekharni" wrote:
>
> or is it this one?
>
> http://www.bhphotov ideo.com/ c/product/ 473101-REG/ Rollei_3721001_ 1_Ortho_120_ Black_and. html
>
>
>
> --- In MF3D-group@yahoogro ups.com, "David W. Kesner" wrote:
> >
> > Hello Nik,
> >
> > > I love this camera and can't wait
> > > to shoot some colorful scenery with it.
> >
> > You should also think about shooting some B&W positives with it. Using
> > B&W negative film and reverse processing it can give some truly dramatic
> > results.
> >
> > There is a company called dr5 that does a really great job on many
> > different types of film. Here is the link to the page with all the films
> > they process:
> >
> > http://www.dr5. com/blackandwhit eslide/filmrevie w.html
> >
> > I used Kodak Tech Pan 2415 with exceptional results until Kodak stopped
> > making it. Until recently there has been nothing that comes close to it.
> > However it now looks like Rollei may have a film that is very close:
> >
> > http://www.dr5. com/blackandwhit eslide/atp. html
> >
> > I have not had a chance to try it yet, but do plan to.
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > David W. Kesner
> > Boise, Idaho, USA
> >
>

Hello David,

> Delta 100 are my choices at present for landscape
> images, although the DMax is not as great as with Pan F.

Yes, Delta 100 seems to be the best all-around choice.

> I shot a test roll of the Rollei ATP in flat light. I thought I had given
> more than enough range to cover all the possibilities, but there was very
> little on the film.

Did you ever try Tech Pan? Does the ATP act the same way? If so, then
there are some severe limitations to what you can shoot.

> film I am using most at this point is Ilford HP5 for candid shots of
> people. It has a little grain but has worked great for my purposes. I will
> be showing some shots from this series at the 3D Center in Portland in
> March and April. (I will be at the reception on April 1).

I assume these will be large format side by side prints like your other
work. The ones I have seen so far have been truly amazing so I hope I can
get to the 3D Center to see these as well. Any chance you will be going
to the NSA Convention and would display them in the Art Gallery there?

Thanks,

David W. Kesner
Boise, Idaho, USA

Thanks,
I ordered a roll of ilford delta 100 from adorama yesterday , to try it out, I shot a roll of this film in my canon e0s 620 a few weeks back and loved the result, i am looking forward to trying the dr5 process and if i like it i may splurge for some techpan like film for pictures of some interesting headstones.

Nik

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Muderick wrote:
>
> You can use pretty much any B&W film. Check dr5.com for his
> recommendations. TMax 100 and 400 work too. You don't need an exotic
> film to test it out. They do look fantastic! You'll love them. I use
> them in the wintertime when there isn't much color around here anyway.
>
> Aaron
>
> sekharni wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks, for all of this great info. I really appreceiate it, I'm
> > tempted to order a box of the film from Germany!
> >
> > Nik
> >
> > --- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com
> > , "sekharni" wrote:
> > >
> > > or is it this one?
> > >
> > >
> > http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/473101-REG/Rollei_3721001_1_Ortho_120_Black_and.html
> > <http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/473101-REG/Rollei_3721001_1_Ortho_120_Black_and.html>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com
> > , "David W. Kesner" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello Nik,
> > > >
> > > > > I love this camera and can't wait
> > > > > to shoot some colorful scenery with it.
> > > >
> > > > You should also think about shooting some B&W positives with it.
> > Using
> > > > B&W negative film and reverse processing it can give some truly
> > dramatic
> > > > results.
> > > >
> > > > There is a company called dr5 that does a really great job on many
> > > > different types of film. Here is the link to the page with all the
> > films
> > > > they process:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.dr5.com/blackandwhiteslide/filmreview.html
> > <http://www.dr5.com/blackandwhiteslide/filmreview.html>
> > > >
> > > > I used Kodak Tech Pan 2415 with exceptional results until Kodak
> > stopped
> > > > making it. Until recently there has been nothing that comes close
> > to it.
> > > > However it now looks like Rollei may have a film that is very close:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.dr5.com/blackandwhiteslide/atp.html
> > <http://www.dr5.com/blackandwhiteslide/atp.html>
> > > >
> > > > I have not had a chance to try it yet, but do plan to.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck,
> > > >
> > > > David W. Kesner
> > > > Boise, Idaho, USA
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

Hello Nik,

> I ordered a roll of ilford delta 100 from adorama yesterday , to try it out, I shot a roll of this film in my canon e0s 620 a few weeks back and loved the result,  i am looking forward to trying the dr5 process

I would definitely follow the recommendations I posted from Mike Davis
on how to shoot (EI) and process this film at dr5.

David W. Kesner
Boise, Idaho, UISA

This is great Info,
Thanks so much for posting. I wish I lived close enough to see your work, I will have to make it to a convention one year,
Nik

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, David Lee wrote:
>
> Nik, David, and others interested in shooting black and white,
> I am primarily a black and white photographer and have shot many rolls of B&W developed by David Wood (the owner of dr5). I have had some great results and highly recommend his service. However, I have a couple of thoughts that may save you some trouble. I loved the look of Ilford Pan F, but there is something about the film that results in an odd mottling in light, even-toned areas such as skies and long-exposure water falls. I have lost several excellent shots because of this and will never use Pan F again. Ilford FP4 and Delta 100 are my choices at present for landscape images, although the DMax is not as great as with Pan F.
>
> I shot a test roll of the Rollei ATP in flat light. I thought I had given more than enough range to cover all the possibilities, but there was very little on the film. If you try it, make sure you do some tests first. The film I am using most at this point is Ilford HP5 for candid shots of people. It has a little grain but has worked great for my purposes. I will be showing some shots from this series at the 3D Center in Portland in March and April. (I will be at the reception on April 1).
> David Lee
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: David W. Kesner
> To: MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, February 6, 2010 7:50:51 AM
> Subject: [MF3D-group] Re: 1st rolls
>
>
> Hello Nik,
>
> > I love this camera and can't wait
> > to shoot some colorful scenery with it.
>
> You should also think about shooting some B&W positives with it. Using
> B&W negative film and reverse processing it can give some truly dramatic
> results.
>
> There is a company called dr5 that does a really great job on many
> different types of film. Here is the link to the page with all the films
> they process:
>
> http://www.dr5 com/blackandwhit eslide/filmrevie w.html
>
> I used Kodak Tech Pan 2415 with exceptional results until Kodak stopped
> making it. Until recently there has been nothing that comes close to it.
> However it now looks like Rollei may have a film that is very close:
>
> http://www.dr5 com/blackandwhit eslide/atp. html
>
> I have not had a chance to try it yet, but do plan to.
>
> Good luck,
>
> David W. Kesner
> Boise, Idaho, USA
>