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Subject: Conversion of 35mm shots to MF shots?
Date: 2009-04-29 08:03:03
From: Grant Campos
I'd love to take advantage of the bigger images and the MF viewers more emersive feeling by converting some of my RBT S1 shots into Medium format slides. Do you know of anyone doing that? I got a quote from a local shiop (Panda in Seattle) at $30 per pair. They said they would make a picture of the slide and then shoot a medium format shot of it.

Any other options?

Grant
Subject: Re: Conversion of 35mm shots to MF shots?
Date: 2009-04-29 10:50:37
From: Brian Reynolds
Grant Campos wrote:
> I'd love to take advantage of the bigger images and the MF viewers
> more emersive feeling by converting some of my RBT S1 shots into
> Medium format slides. Do you know of anyone doing that? I got a
> quote from a local shiop (Panda in Seattle) at $30 per pair. They
> said they would make a picture of the slide and then shoot a medium
> format shot of it.
>
> Any other options?

Assuming you are starting with 35mm slides, get, or borrow, a MF
camera with a macro bellows/slide duplicator (there was one for the
Pentax 67), and a color corrected light source, and shoot directly on
to 120 slide film. You'll wind up having to to balance the contrast
and color of the original slide with the duplicate.

I don't think the quality is going to be all that good. You are not
creating any new detail when you make the enlarged copy slide. Why
not make/get a 35mm viewer with more magnification?

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Subject: Re: Conversion of 35mm shots to MF shots?
Date: 2009-04-29 11:19:32
From: Bob Schlesinger
Grant:
 
Another way to do it is to get your shots scanned and printed to a film recorder.  
One of the nice things about that is you can work on enhancements or corrections to the image in PhotoShop if you want to.
Two good places are Slides.com and Gammatech.com
 
I've used Gammatech before - their quality is excellent, and they can do the scan as well as the MF transparencies.  
I think the cost would be about the same as your local shop's option if you go with a 4000 dpi scan.
 
The drawback is that you are going from analog to digital to analog.   I have only had this done with 35mm to 35mm and was happy with the quality
but scaling up to MF might be problematic and artifacts might be viewable.   For $30 or so it would be interesting to try.
 
Brian's point makes the most sense though - the best quality will be with a better 35mm viewer and using the original. 
 
Bob Schlesinger

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On 4/29/2009 at 2:02 PM Grant Campos wrote:

I'd love to take advantage of the bigger images and the MF viewers more emersive feeling by converting some of my RBT S1 shots into Medium format slides. Do you know of anyone doing that? I got a quote from a local shiop (Panda in Seattle) at $30 per pair. They said they would make a picture of the slide and then shoot a medium format shot of it.

Any other options?

Grant

Subject: Re: Conversion of 35mm shots to MF shots?
Date: 2009-04-29 14:44:23
From: Mark
> Grant:
>
> Another way to do it is to get your shots scanned and printed to a film recorder.
> One of the nice things about that is you can work on enhancements or corrections to the image in PhotoShop if you want to.
> Two good places are Slides.com and Gammatech.com

so these two places will work from digital files to 120?

I'm also looking for a way to dupe 120 slides after some doing some photoshop work too them.

I did have a hack/kludge go at it via the copystand and it did work although I would need to be much more refined in the print and approach.

Cheers
Subject: Re: Conversion of 35mm shots to MF shots?
Date: 2009-04-29 14:55:52
From: Bob Schlesinger
Actually, I am not sure that slides.com will dup to 120.
 
But Gammatech does.   They charge $10 per slide (so it would be $20 for a stereo pair)
 
 
 

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On 4/29/2009 at 8:44 PM Mark wrote:

> Grant:
>
> Another way to do it is to get your shots scanned and printed to a film recorder.
> One of the nice things about that is you can work on enhancements or corrections to the image in PhotoShop if you want to.
> Two good places are Slides.com and Gammatech.com

so these two places will work from digital files to 120?

I'm also looking for a way to dupe 120 slides after some doing some photoshop work too them.

I did have a hack/kludge go at it via the copystand and it did work although I would need to be much more refined in the print and approach.

Cheers

Subject: Re: Conversion of 35mm shots to MF shots?
Date: 2009-04-29 16:52:44
From: John Hart
--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Schlesinger" wrote:
>
> Actually, I am not sure that slides.com will dup to 120.

I think my last order of MF from slides.com was about 10 months ago, but as of then, yes, they made MF's from large digital files (I sent 5200x5200, or 1000 dpcm).

Slides.com and gammatech used different film stock (70mm perf agfa, vs. roll 120 Ektachrome) on my stuff. I like the color of the Ektachrome a little better, and it has slightly less grain. The end sharpness seemed about equivalent though. $10 each vs. $5 each is significant if you are making a (large) number of stereo pairs.

John
Subject: Re: Conversion of 35mm shots to MF shots?
Date: 2009-05-01 15:00:15
From: Grant Campos
Thank you for the advice. I do have a Don Lopp Box with Comby lenses for my viewer. My thought was that if I wanted to make a set of slide from my 2000 hike up Mt. Rainier, and give them as a gift with a viewer, the best option with the most bang for buck would be 20 MF slides and a MF viewer, as apposed to a Realist format slides and the smaller viewers.

Grant

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "John Hart" wrote:
>
> --- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Schlesinger" wrote:
> >
> > Actually, I am not sure that slides.com will dup to 120.
>
> I think my last order of MF from slides.com was about 10 months ago, but as of then, yes, they made MF's from large digital files (I sent 5200x5200, or 1000 dpcm).
>
> Slides.com and gammatech used different film stock (70mm perf agfa, vs. roll 120 Ektachrome) on my stuff. I like the color of the Ektachrome a little better, and it has slightly less grain. The end sharpness seemed about equivalent though. $10 each vs. $5 each is significant if you are making a (large) number of stereo pairs.
>
> John
>
Subject: Re: Conversion of 35mm shots to MF shots?
Date: 2009-05-03 02:14:53
From: Mark
--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "Grant Campos" wrote:
>
> Thank you for the advice. I do have a Don Lopp Box with Comby lenses for my viewer. My thought was that if I wanted to make a set of slide from my 2000 hike up Mt. Rainier, and give them as a gift with a viewer, the best option with the most bang for buck would be 20 MF slides and a MF viewer, as apposed to a Realist format slides and the smaller viewers.

so has anyone done this already and offer tips for best results?

I did the copy stand method and it worked, but needed much tighter control.

I think I'll do some samples which will include my Dita Von Tease feather strip shot and one from my shoot last week.

Cheers

M