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Subject: Selling stereo slides
Date: 2010-04-21 00:45:05
From: Mark
Hello

Just wondering if there's a market for pre-shot stereo 120mm slides?

For example I shot a fashion show and back stage studio of london latex design co - Libidex and the main owner didn't want them so there's a set there I could sell.

Does one need to sell them with a viewer?

I figure a set of 10 is ideal as that a perfect number for the drum viewer.

Cheers

Mark
Subject: Re: Selling stereo slides
Date: 2010-04-21 06:44:37
From: George Themelis
Yes, there is a market for MF slides.  People have sold them in the past and I have bought a couple.  Most likely the person who buys them already has a viewer, so you can sell the viewer extra.
 
George
 

From: Mark
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 2:44 AM
Subject: [MF3D-group] Selling stereo slides

 

Hello

Just wondering if there's a market for pre-shot stereo 120mm slides?

For example I shot a fashion show and back stage studio of london latex design co - Libidex and the main owner didn't want them so there's a set there I could sell.

Does one need to sell them with a viewer?

I figure a set of 10 is ideal as that a perfect number for the drum viewer.

Cheers

Mark

Subject: Re: Selling stereo slides
Date: 2010-04-21 23:09:11
From: David Lee
I wouldn't say that there is a huge market for them, but there are people who collect good stereo images in any format. I have sold a number of 120 slides ranging in price up to $1000 each. The trade show at the NSA convention is a good place to start. Most people who collect 120 slides would have their own viewer, but it wouldn't hurt to have a few viewers to sell to potential buyers.

David Lee


From: Mark
To: MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, April 20, 2010 11:44:24 PM
Subject: [MF3D-group] Selling stereo slides

 

Hello

Just wondering if there's a market for pre-shot stereo 120mm slides?

For example I shot a fashion show and back stage studio of london latex design co - Libidex and the main owner didn't want them so there's a set there I could sell.

Does one need to sell them with a viewer?

I figure a set of 10 is ideal as that a perfect number for the drum viewer.

Cheers

Mark

Subject: Re: Selling stereo slides
Date: 2010-04-22 01:43:21
From: Mark
thanks for the replies.

I discovered a local small gallery in Brighton's North Laines has graduate photo student show on and there was 5 small wall mounted light boxes on the wall with the basic slide viewer in it (plastic one).

There was a limited print run of 10 per image. The slide and I'm guessing light box were being sold for £450.

The portraits were pretty good imho. I'm just somewhat shocked by cost they're asking for. Gallery couldn't confirm if they were dupes. They think they were.

M




--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, David Lee wrote:
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> I wouldn't say that there is a huge market for them, but there are people who collect good stereo images in any format. I have sold a number of 120 slides ranging in price up to $1000 each. The trade show at the NSA convention is a good place to start. Most people who collect 120 slides would have their own viewer, but it wouldn't hurt to have a few viewers to sell to potential buyers.
>
>
> David Lee
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Mark
> To: MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, April 20, 2010 11:44:24 PM
> Subject: [MF3D-group] Selling stereo slides
>
>
> Hello
>
> Just wondering if there's a market for pre-shot stereo 120mm slides?
>
> For example I shot a fashion show and back stage studio of london latex design co - Libidex and the main owner didn't want them so there's a set there I could sell.
>
> Does one need to sell them with a viewer?
>
> I figure a set of 10 is ideal as that a perfect number for the drum viewer.
>
> Cheers
>
> Mark
>
Subject: Re: Selling stereo slides
Date: 2010-04-28 08:43:13
From: lattie_smart
> --- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, David Lee wrote:
> >
> > I wouldn't say that there is a huge market for them, but there are people who collect good stereo images in any format. I have sold a number of 120 slides ranging in price up to $1000 each. The trade


?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?

Were these exclusive, incredible art gallery items?

I mean, I really like MF slides...but $1,000 each?
(Maybe if it was intimate shots of Marilyn and JFK together...) ;-)
Subject: Re: Selling stereo slides
Date: 2010-04-30 09:09:19
From: Boris Starosta
Dear Lattie,

With respect to David Lee's images, many are one-of-a-kind, carefully crafted, very beautiful images.  Have you seen them?   It goes without saying that as MF3d images they are already very rare, and with the imminent demise of film.... such images will always remain special rarities.  

Prices for fine art depend not only on subject matter, but also image quality, craftsmanship, rarity, and the personal relationship that collectors build with the artist.  For some photography buyers, $1000 would be a good deal for an image that they love, from an artist they admire, in a special format unavailable to most people that gives the most fantastic image quality...  Some people pay way more than $1000 for photographic PRINTS - hardly a unique format.

Best to start saving your pennies!

Cheers,

Boris

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:40 AM, lattie_smart <lattie_smart@yahoo.com> wrote:
 


> --- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, David Lee wrote:
> >
> > I wouldn't say that there is a huge market for them, but there are people who collect good stereo images in any format. I have sold a number of 120 slides ranging in price up to $1000 each. The trade

?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?

Were these exclusive, incredible art gallery items?

I mean, I really like MF slides...but $1,000 each?
(Maybe if it was intimate shots of Marilyn and JFK together...) ;-)




--
A mathematician is a machine for turning coffee into theorems -- Alfréd Rényi


Subject: Re: Selling stereo slides
Date: 2010-04-30 14:02:28
From: lattie_smart
I was just yanking a little length of chain there :-)

Actually, I'm much more immersed in the Fine Arts world than most people realize. I usually see gigantic,contemporary or small, historic prints in high end galleries and museums, but never slide media displayed.

A pop artist friend whom I introduced to stereography saw some pricey MF slide works at Art Basel a few years ago (could they've been by Mr. Lee?). They included what appeared to be handmade, matched viewer and stand. So, it was like a whole, self-contained, conceptual/sculptural package, I guess. He said to the female proprietor, "Oh, these are just like stereo pictures!" But she insisted it was something totally unique and proprietary. ;-)

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, Boris Starosta wrote:
>
> Dear Lattie,
>
> With respect to David Lee's images, many are one-of-a-kind, carefully
> crafted, very beautiful images. Have you seen them? It goes without
> saying that as MF3d images they are already very rare, and with the imminent
> demise of film.... such images will always remain special rarities.
>
> Prices for fine art depend not only on subject matter, but also image
> quality, craftsmanship, rarity, and the personal relationship that
> collectors build with the artist. For some photography buyers, $1000 would
> be a good deal for an image that they love, from an artist they admire, in a
> special format unavailable to most people that gives the most fantastic
> image quality... Some people pay way more than $1000 for photographic
> PRINTS - hardly a unique format.
>
> Best to start saving your pennies!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Boris
>
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:40 AM, lattie_smart wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > > --- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com , David
> > Lee wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I wouldn't say that there is a huge market for them, but there are
> > people who collect good stereo images in any format. I have sold a number of
> > 120 slides ranging in price up to $1000 each. The trade
> >
> > ?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?
> >
> > Were these exclusive, incredible art gallery items?
> >
> > I mean, I really like MF slides...but $1,000 each?
> > (Maybe if it was intimate shots of Marilyn and JFK together...) ;-)
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> A mathematician is a machine for turning coffee into theorems -- Alfréd
> Rényi
>
Subject: Re: Selling stereo slides
Date: 2010-05-01 02:30:05
From: Mark
> I was just yanking a little length of chain there :-)
>
> Actually, I'm much more immersed in the Fine Arts world than most people realize. I usually see gigantic,contemporary or small, historic prints in high end galleries and museums, but never slide media displayed.

its rare.

> A pop artist friend whom I introduced to stereography saw some pricey MF slide works at Art Basel a few years ago (could they've been by Mr. Lee?). They included what appeared to be handmade, matched viewer and stand. So, it was like a whole, self-contained, conceptual/sculptural package, I guess. He said to the female proprietor, "Oh, these are just like stereo pictures!" But she insisted it was something totally unique and proprietary. ;-)

Oh I made one of those. I like the way people have to work to see the images - a small dance ensues. Whats great too is if people see it, ignore it or even actively distance themselves from it.

www.myspace.com/geometricprimitiv
and it in use: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGVDoxCGd9A

I'll have it rebuilt one day using better lens and better light set up.

M
Subject: Re: Selling stereo slides
Date: 2010-05-01 10:07:58
From: Boris Starosta
In the larger fine art world, stereoscopic images pretty much have to be shown and sold as "installation art."


My experience is:

1. Most art buyers and juries are unaware of stereoscopic art.  (Success of stereoscopic cinema will not change this)

2. "Photography" is prints.  Hardly anything else is considered photography.  Thus with stereoscopic photography, if a stereoscope is required to view the art, you can't get juried as a photographer; whether for shows, festivals, galleries, etc. (The way around this is to show anaglyphs, or regular prints and stereo on the side, if your gallery will allow it).  So what you have to do is represent yourself as an installation artist.  On rare occasions, muscling your way into a photography show may work through unorthodox channels (like: you personally know a juror or gallery owner).

If David Lee had his stereoscope and prints in Art Basel, that means he has the representation of a very fine gallery.  His work is certainly worthy!  Is it true, David?

Cheers,

Boris


On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 3:58 PM, lattie_smart <lattie_smart@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

I was just yanking a little length of chain there :-)

Actually, I'm much more immersed in the Fine Arts world than most people realize. I usually see gigantic,contemporary or small, historic prints in high end galleries and museums, but never slide media displayed.

A pop artist friend whom I introduced to stereography saw some pricey MF slide works at Art Basel a few years ago (could they've been by Mr. Lee?). They included what appeared to be handmade, matched viewer and stand. So, it was like a whole, self-contained, conceptual/sculptural package, I guess. He said to the female proprietor, "Oh, these are just like stereo pictures!" But she insisted it was something totally unique and proprietary. ;-)



--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, Boris Starosta wrote:
>
> Dear Lattie,
>
> With respect to David Lee's images, many are one-of-a-kind, carefully
> crafted, very beautiful images. Have you seen them? It goes without
> saying that as MF3d images they are already very rare, and with the imminent
> demise of film.... such images will always remain special rarities.
>
> Prices for fine art depend not only on subject matter, but also image
> quality, craftsmanship, rarity, and the personal relationship that
> collectors build with the artist. For some photography buyers, $1000 would
> be a good deal for an image that they love, from an artist they admire, in a
> special format unavailable to most people that gives the most fantastic
> image quality... Some people pay way more than $1000 for photographic
> PRINTS - hardly a unique format.
>
> Best to start saving your pennies!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Boris
>
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:40 AM, lattie_smart wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > > --- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com>, David

> > Lee wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I wouldn't say that there is a huge market for them, but there are
> > people who collect good stereo images in any format. I have sold a number of
> > 120 slides ranging in price up to $1000 each. The trade
> >
> > ?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?
> >
> > Were these exclusive, incredible art gallery items?
> >
> > I mean, I really like MF slides...but $1,000 each?
> > (Maybe if it was intimate shots of Marilyn and JFK together...) ;-)
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> A mathematician is a machine for turning coffee into theorems -- Alfréd
> Rényi
>




--
A mathematician is a machine for turning coffee into theorems -- Alfréd Rényi


Subject: Re: Selling stereo slides
Date: 2010-05-01 18:35:46
From: lattie_smart
Yep, you'd have to offer the glasses or viewer in some clever, integrated way.

I've also seen hand-made art and collage pieces offered in motion or 3D lenticulars - that's a pretty familiar format to buyers and no glasses required.

But MF slides have such a "wow" factor - and an inviting mystery in the form of the viewer.

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, Boris Starosta wrote:
>
> In the larger fine art world, stereoscopic images pretty much have to be
> shown and sold as "installation art."
Subject: Re: Selling stereo slides
Date: 2010-05-02 02:32:41
From: Mark
the funny thing I keep finding is two fold:

1- People can admire and be blown away by the 120mm format 3d and yet can't conceptualize their own subject matter in that format, so I need to do a 1 roll test shoot.

2 - They then 'hoard the precious' as it were rather than show it around in public.

M




--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "lattie_smart" wrote:
>
> Yep, you'd have to offer the glasses or viewer in some clever, integrated way.
>
> I've also seen hand-made art and collage pieces offered in motion or 3D lenticulars - that's a pretty familiar format to buyers and no glasses required.
>
> But MF slides have such a "wow" factor - and an inviting mystery in the form of the viewer.
>
> --- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, Boris Starosta wrote:
> >
> > In the larger fine art world, stereoscopic images pretty much have to be
> > shown and sold as "installation art."
>