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Subject: Anyone still using a 1920's Vintage Rollei Rolleidoscop?
Date: 2010-06-23 09:55:04
From: Mark
Just wondering what its like.

Also any of you in the UK?

Cheers

Mark
Subject: Re: Anyone still using a 1920's Vintage Rollei Rolleidoscop?
Date: 2010-06-23 10:21:45
From: Bob Aldridge

I have one. Not from the 1920s, though – mine is a very late one from 1938…

 

What’s it like?

 

Well, you’ve no doubt heard all these people complaining about the viewfinder on the Fujifilm W1? Well, the viewfinder on the Rolleidoscop isn’t much better… J

 

Other than that, it’s like using a camera J J J

 

But, as there were so few made, it can be a little offputting due to the rarity value. Which is why I tend to use my Chinese camera these days.

 

Bob Aldridge

 

From: MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: 23 June 2010 16:54
To: MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MF3D-group] Anyone still using a 1920's Vintage Rollei Rolleidoscop?

 

 

Just wondering what its like.

Also any of you in the UK?

Cheers

Mark

Subject: Re: Anyone still using a 1920's Vintage Rollei Rolleidoscop?
Date: 2010-06-23 12:28:10
From: John Thurston
Mark wrote:
> Just wondering what its like.

My 'scop is a solidly built German machine. I enjoy the feel
of it every time I pick it up but it has its quirks. A
couple are due to age, and a couple due to dated design.

The viewfinder is ancient technology. If you are trying to
use the original mirror, you are going to be disappointed.
Get it replaced with a new front-surface mirror. A new
focusing screen is a nice (but expensive) addition. I fake
it by using the original screen with a bit of Fresnel lens
dropped on top of it.

The tripod mount is also ancient technology. I drilled a
piece of wood to fit around the tripod post. It provides a
larger foot-print for my quick release plate.

There is, by default, no flash-syc socket. It isn't hard to
add one, though.

The un-coated lenses absolutely (imho) require the use of
hoods. I investigated having my lenses coated, but the cost
to disassemble, coat and reassemble two tessar lenses was
_say_ out of my budget.

The pneumatic shutter timing is solid and reliable but with
time (and I suspect have sat unused for many years at 1/50)
some settings have drifted. My shutter has been timed and I
have a translation chart taped to my viewfinder hood. This
means I meter a scene, determine the shutter speed I need
and look on my chart to see which speed I need to dial-up to
get my desired speed. In practice, there are a couple of
speeds which are not as marked, but I end up checking the
chart for each exposure anyway.

By default the camera will give 5 1/2 image pairs per roll
of 120 film. I have modified my camera so I can reliably
produce 6 pairs per roll.
http://stereo.thurstons.us/rolleidoscop.htm

Bob mentions the "rarity value" of the camera and at least
one person has disapproved of the modifications I have made
to my 'scop. I'm not hung up on it. I figure it's a camera
that is made to make images and I should do what it takes to
keep the camera in use and making the best images it can.
With that said, I must also confess that since the purchase
of my TL120-1 (and the creation of my wide-angle TL120-55),
my Rolleidoscop has been out only twice. In both cases, I
chose to use the 'scop because of its smaller size and
lighter weight. My Sputnik, while a very good example of a
Sputnik, has not been out at all since I've started using
the TL120.

--
John Thurston
Juneau Alaska
http://stereo.thurstons.us
Subject: Re: Anyone still using a 1920's Vintage Rollei Rolleidoscop?
Date: 2010-06-23 13:04:51
From: David Kesner
If you have received complaints about your modification I would hate to see what people have to say about the Heidescop that Don Lopp modified for me. The front lens board is about the only thing left that could be recognized. New back made from Isolettes that give a 6x6 image, new shutter mechanism from a Rollei, wooden lens shades, view finder from a Polaroid, surrounded in a wood body with a tripod hole, and a PC contact for flash.

It is quite something to behold, but takes really great images. In fact the only stereo images that I have ever sold were made with this (reversed processed B&W Tech Pan). But I must agree with John here in that since I bought my TL120 I have not used the Heidescop once. I could never part with it though because of the sentimental value that is attached to Don Lopp.

Perhaps I will bring it to NSA to show off in the Medium Format special interest group meeting. Speaking of that how many of you are going and will be at the meeting (Friday from 11:00 to noon)?

Thanks,

David W. Kesner
Boise, Idaho, USA

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 12:27 PM, John Thurston <juneau3d@thurstons.us> wrote:
Bob mentions the "rarity value" of the camera and at least
one person has disapproved of the modifications I have made
to my 'scop. I'm not hung up on it. I figure it's a camera
that is made to make images and I should do what it takes to
keep the camera in use and making the best images it can.

Subject: Re: Anyone still using a 1920's Vintage Rollei Rolleidoscop?
Date: 2010-06-23 13:29:44
From: bob@chairboy.com
I will be there. I'm looking forward to it.

Bob Venezia
Seattle, Washington

Quoting David Kesner <lists@dddphotography.com>:

> If you have received complaints about your modification I would hate to
> see
> what people have to say about the Heidescop that Don Lopp modified for
> me.
> The front lens board is about the only thing left that could be
> recognized.
> New back made from Isolettes that give a 6x6 image, new shutter
> mechanism
> from a Rollei, wooden lens shades, view finder from a Polaroid,
> surrounded
> in a wood body with a tripod hole, and a PC contact for flash.
>
> It is quite something to behold, but takes really great images. In fact
> the
> only stereo images that I have ever sold were made with this (reversed
> processed B&W Tech Pan). But I must agree with John here in that since
> I
> bought my TL120 I have not used the Heidescop once. I could never part
> with
> it though because of the sentimental value that is attached to Don
> Lopp.
>
> Perhaps I will bring it to NSA to show off in the Medium Format special
> interest group meeting. Speaking of that how many of you are going and
> will
> be at the meeting (Friday from 11:00 to noon)?
>
> Thanks,
>
> David W. Kesner
> Boise, Idaho, USA
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 12:27 PM, John Thurston
> <juneau3d@thurstons.us>wrote:
>
> > Bob mentions the "rarity value" of the camera and at least
> > one person has disapproved of the modifications I have made
> > to my 'scop. I'm not hung up on it. I figure it's a camera
> > that is made to make images and I should do what it takes to
> > keep the camera in use and making the best images it can.
> >
>
Subject: Re: Anyone still using a 1920's Vintage Rollei Rolleidoscop?
Date: 2010-06-24 02:23:15
From: Mark
Love to see a photo of it.

M

> It is quite something to behold, but takes really great images. In fact the
> only stereo images that I have ever sold were made with this (reversed
> processed B&W Tech Pan). But I must agree with John here in that since I
> bought my TL120 I have not used the Heidescop once. I could never part with
> it though because of the sentimental value that is attached to Don Lopp.
Subject: Re: Anyone still using a 1920's Vintage Rollei Rolleidoscop?
Date: 2010-06-24 07:23:02
From: David W. Kesner
Hello Mark,

> Love to see a photo of it.

I will take one by this weekend and post it on my website and let you
know.

Thanks,

David W. Kesner
Boise, Idaho, USA
Subject: Re: Anyone still using a 1920's Vintage Rollei Rolleidoscop?
Date: 2010-06-24 22:02:06
From: David W. Kesner
Hello Mark,

> Love to see a photo of it.

You asked for it so here it is:

http://www.dddphotography.com/heidoscop/

Thanks,

David W. Kesner
Boise, Idaho, USA
Subject: Re: Anyone still using a 1920's Vintage Rollei Rolleidoscop?
Date: 2010-06-25 06:06:35
From: John Goodman
David W. Kesner wrote:

> You asked for it so here it is:
>
> http://www.dddphotography.com/heidoscop/

Looks like a mate to Don's "Crust-o-Matic" viewer. Amazing how
such crude-looking tools can provide such great results.

John
Subject: Medium Format Stereo Slides at the Convention
Date: 2010-06-30 20:20:51
From: David Lee
For those who may be interested in viewing medium format stereo slides at the convention, I will be bringing 2 of the traveling folios which contain many beautiful images. You will be able to find me at the medium format meeting on Friday July 16 at 11am, at my workshop on medium format stereo photography on Saturday July 17 at 10am, at the exhibition of stereo art, and at the Trade Show. You can also call me on my cell phone 831-818-4717. In addition, I am bringing about 400 of my own medium format slides (for viewing and for sale). I look forward to seeing you there.

David Lee
Subject: Re: Medium Format Stereo Slides at the Convention
Date: 2010-07-03 08:53:48
From: lattie_smart
I hope to be there to take up on the offer!

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, David Lee wrote:
>
> For those who may be interested in viewing medium format stereo slides at the
> convention, I will be bringing 2 of the traveling folios which contain many
Subject: Re: Medium Format Stereo Slides at the Convention
Date: 2010-07-04 17:30:40
From: David Lee
I look forward to meeting you.


From: lattie_smart
To: MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, July 3, 2010 7:53:21 AM
Subject: [MF3D-group] Re: Medium Format Stereo Slides at the Convention

 

I hope to be there to take up on the offer!

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, David Lee wrote:
>
> For those who may be interested in viewing medium format stereo slides at the
> convention, I will be bringing 2 of the traveling folios which contain many