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Subject: DSLR output to the 120mm slide?
Date: 2010-07-05 00:53:52
From: Mark
Hello

Wondering if anyones tried it?

Someone commented that realist 35mm to 120mm doesn't work well enough if I remember correctly. The new DLSR's like my Canon 5dmkii is 21.1 million pixels so should provide a better result.

Thinking of shooting buildings with large interoccular distances.

M
Subject: Re: DSLR output to the 120mm slide?
Date: 2010-07-05 07:08:35
From: David W. Kesner
Hello Mark,

> Wondering if anyones tried it?

Yes, several people have done it, such as John Hart (Colorado). It
provides perfectly acceptable results, but not as good as ones shot
directly on film with a quality MF camera.

One of the biggest factors is the actual device used to output the
digital file to film and the company that does it. I believe that John
compared www.slides.com and www.gammatech.com and found the later to be
better.

Slides.com charges $8.00 for 70mm transparencies. They do not provide
much information.

Gammatech charges $10.00 for the first and $8.00 for duplicates, plus
$2.50 for 1st class mail. They handel all sizes from 6x4.5 to 6x12 at
either 8k or 16k. The give very precise deatails on file dimension and
sizes:

http://www.gammatech.com/html/recordingmed.shtml#pagetop

Hope that helps,

David W. Kesner
Boise, Idaho, USA
Subject: Re: DSLR output to the 120mm slide?
Date: 2010-07-06 02:14:16
From: Mark
Thanks David

I was specifically thinking of architecture as I can russel up 2 7D's and similar lenses and control them wirelessly.

Two 120mm camera's is another mater. Though Hasselblad prices have crashed in the last few years.

M



--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "David W. Kesner" wrote:
>
> Hello Mark,
>
> > Wondering if anyones tried it?
>
> Yes, several people have done it, such as John Hart (Colorado). It
> provides perfectly acceptable results, but not as good as ones shot
> directly on film with a quality MF camera.
>
> One of the biggest factors is the actual device used to output the
> digital file to film and the company that does it. I believe that John
> compared www.slides.com and www.gammatech.com and found the later to be
> better.
>
> Slides.com charges $8.00 for 70mm transparencies. They do not provide
> much information.
>
> Gammatech charges $10.00 for the first and $8.00 for duplicates, plus
> $2.50 for 1st class mail. They handel all sizes from 6x4.5 to 6x12 at
> either 8k or 16k. The give very precise deatails on file dimension and
> sizes:
>
> http://www.gammatech.com/html/recordingmed.shtml#pagetop
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> David W. Kesner
> Boise, Idaho, USA
>
Subject: Re: DSLR output to the 120mm slide?
Date: 2010-07-06 06:53:56
From: David W. Kesner
Hello Mark,

> Two 120mm camera's is another mater. Though Hasselblad prices have crashed
> in the last few years.

Just a thought - but two 3D World TL120's with lenses are about the same
price as two 7D's without lenses. You can sync the shutters with a
pneumatic release. As an added bonus you would get two stereo pairs for
each shot fired *{;-)

Of course the 80mm lenses of the TL120 aren't exactly the best choice for
architecture.

Thanks,

David W. Kesner
Boise, Idaho, USA
Subject: Re: DSLR output to the 120mm slide?
Date: 2010-07-06 11:32:46
From: Brian Reynolds
David W. Kesner wrote:
> Mark wrote:
> > Two 120mm camera's is another mater. Though Hasselblad prices have
> > crashed in the last few years.
>
> Just a thought - but two 3D World TL120's with lenses are about the
> same price as two 7D's without lenses. You can sync the shutters
> with a pneumatic release. As an added bonus you would get two stereo
> pairs for each shot fired *{;-)
>
> Of course the 80mm lenses of the TL120 aren't exactly the best
> choice for architecture.

A pair of used Hasselblads with A12 film backs, waist level finders
and 80mm lenses can be bought for less than the price of two TL120s.
If you shop around, and are willing to use older cameras (e.g.,
500Cs), a pair of Hasselblad kits can be had for less than the price
of a single TL120.

What kills you is the cost of additional lenses.

--
Brian Reynolds | "It's just like flying a spaceship.
reynolds@panix.com | You push some buttons and see
http://www.panix.com/~reynolds/ | what happens." -- Zapp Brannigan
NAR# 54438 |
Subject: Re: DSLR output to the 120mm slide?
Date: 2010-07-06 11:47:32
From: John Thurston
Brian Reynolds wrote:
> David W. Kesner wrote:
>> Mark wrote:
>>> Two 120mm camera's is another mater. Though Hasselblad prices have
>>> crashed in the last few years.
>> Just a thought - but two 3D World TL120's with lenses are about the
>> same price as two 7D's without lenses. You can sync the shutters
>> with a pneumatic release. As an added bonus you would get two stereo
>> pairs for each shot fired *{;-)
>>
>> Of course the 80mm lenses of the TL120 aren't exactly the best
>> choice for architecture.
>
> A pair of used Hasselblads with A12 film backs, waist level finders
> and 80mm lenses can be bought for less than the price of two TL120s.
> If you shop around, and are willing to use older cameras (e.g.,
> 500Cs), a pair of Hasselblad kits can be had for less than the price
> of a single TL120.
>
> What kills you is the cost of additional lenses.

There is also the recurring per-image cost of film and
processing.

I don't know how many images Mark is planning on making, but
he may be trying to take advantage of the front-loaded cost
model for digital imaging.
--
John Thurston
Juneau Alaska
http://stereo.thurstons.us
Subject: Re: DSLR output to the 120mm slide?
Date: 2010-07-06 12:07:35
From: Brian Reynolds
John Thurston wrote:
> Brian Reynolds wrote:
> > David W. Kesner wrote:
> >> Mark wrote:
> >>> Two 120mm camera's is another mater. Though Hasselblad prices have
> >>> crashed in the last few years.
> >> Just a thought - but two 3D World TL120's with lenses are about the
> >> same price as two 7D's without lenses. You can sync the shutters
> >> with a pneumatic release. As an added bonus you would get two stereo
> >> pairs for each shot fired *{;-)
> >>
> >> Of course the 80mm lenses of the TL120 aren't exactly the best
> >> choice for architecture.
> >
> > A pair of used Hasselblads with A12 film backs, waist level finders
> > and 80mm lenses can be bought for less than the price of two TL120s.
> > If you shop around, and are willing to use older cameras (e.g.,
> > 500Cs), a pair of Hasselblad kits can be had for less than the price
> > of a single TL120.
> >
> > What kills you is the cost of additional lenses.
>
> There is also the recurring per-image cost of film and
> processing.
>
> I don't know how many images Mark is planning on making, but
> he may be trying to take advantage of the front-loaded cost
> model for digital imaging.

For the costs of a stereo pair (based on the per frame costs being
quoted) I can buy a roll of Kodak E100G 120 and have it processed.

--
Brian Reynolds | "It's just like flying a spaceship.
reynolds@panix.com | You push some buttons and see
http://www.panix.com/~reynolds/ | what happens." -- Zapp Brannigan
NAR# 54438 |
Subject: Re: DSLR output to the 120mm slide?
Date: 2010-07-07 02:00:45
From: Mark
Think I can borrow the 2x 7D's...

Or least swap them for my 5dmkii as hostage for the shoot.

All a bit vague, just planning what can be done so primed and ready.

M