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Subject: Provia 400 vs 400X
Date: 2010-09-16 04:36:17
From: jamesbharp
Provia 400 is a much different animal than Provia 400X. While the newer Provia 400X is slightly grainier than Provia 100F it looks gorgeous, rendering gorgeous colors and blacks. It reminds me a bit of the way Kodachrome used to look and is one of my favorite emulsions.

From my experience Provia 400 is grainy enough to diminish the advantages of MF and can produce bizarre colors, particularly for night photography. Personally I wouldn't feed it to a Holga!


Jim Harp
Subject: Re: Provia 400 vs 400X
Date: 2010-09-16 11:21:24
From: John Thurston
jamesbharp wrote:
> Provia 400 is a much different animal than Provia 400X.
> While the newer Provia 400X is slightly grainier than
> Provia 100F it looks gorgeous, rendering gorgeous colors
> and blacks. It reminds me a bit of the way Kodachrome
> used to look and is one of my favorite emulsions.
>
> From my experience Provia 400 is grainy enough to
> diminish the advantages of MF and can produce bizarre
> colors, particularly for night photography. Personally I
> wouldn't feed it to a Holga!

I am unfamiliar with "Provia 400" but am familiar with
"Provia 400F" which may be what you are describing.
http://www.fuji.fi/documents/13/provia_400f_AF3066E.pdf

As I recall, it had the grain and color characteristics you
describe. I think I gave away my last two rolls of it and
shed no tears at its passing.

As Jim observes, the newer "Provia 400X" is the film we mean
to be endorsing.
http://www.fujifilm.com/products/professional_films/pdf/provia_400x_datasheet.pdf

--
John Thurston
Juneau Alaska
http://stereo.thurstons.us
Subject: Re: Provia 400 vs 400X
Date: 2010-09-16 12:49:50
From: lattie_smart
Coming mostly from the 35mm world, this is the first time I ever heard of a useful iso above 100. I remember how the old E200 and K200 turned every shot into a confetti parade!

Looking more carefully at the tags at the MF foilo pages, I see that I may have viewed some 400X MF slides at NSA. If so, I didn't notice any added graininess at all in the 3x viewers.

This certainly expands the useful range of MF for me (not that I had too much problem counting-off seconds during Bulb exposures, and Velvia 50 is still King of the Outdoors).

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, John Thurston wrote:
>
> jamesbharp wrote:
> > Provia 400 is a much different animal than Provia 400X.
> > While the newer Provia 400X is slightly grainier than
> > Provia 100F it looks gorgeous, rendering gorgeous colors
> > and blacks. It reminds me a bit of the way Kodachrome
> > used to look and is one of my favorite emulsions.
> >
> > From my experience Provia 400 is grainy enough to
> > diminish the advantages of MF and can produce bizarre
> > colors, particularly for night photography. Personally I
> > wouldn't feed it to a Holga!
>
> I am unfamiliar with "Provia 400" but am familiar with
> "Provia 400F" which may be what you are describing.
> http://www.fuji.fi/documents/13/provia_400f_AF3066E.pdf
>
> As I recall, it had the grain and color characteristics you
> describe. I think I gave away my last two rolls of it and
> shed no tears at its passing.
>
> As Jim observes, the newer "Provia 400X" is the film we mean
> to be endorsing.
> http://www.fujifilm.com/products/professional_films/pdf/provia_400x_datasheet.pdf
>
> --
> John Thurston
> Juneau Alaska
> http://stereo.thurstons.us
>