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Subject: 120mm film developing .... almost gone completely?
Date: 2011-10-08 16:49:25
From: vlagal57
I'm starting to get a little worried about getting E6 developed in LOS ANGELES! The lab that I've been using for 17 years (or more, can't remember now) that assured me just a month ago that B&W and E6 was all that was keeping it going - just closed in the valley (SFV) ... so I did a little looking and it seems like there's only 2 places left in Los Angeles where one can get E6 developed locally!!!

Has everyone switched to developing via the mail? Has it come to this? Wow. I love my Fuji W3, but I never wanted to give up my Rolli or TL120 ... but it seems that day may come...

Any suggestions for where to get E6 developed in southern California are welcome... as well as comments on my apparent delusion that E6 would be with us for the rest of my life (25-30 years if I'm lucky..)...

wow.

Vlad
Subject: Re: 120mm film developing .... almost gone completely?
Date: 2011-10-08 17:13:52
From: John Thurston
On 10/8/2011 2:49 PM, vlagal57 wrote:
> I'm starting to get a little worried about getting E6
> developed in LOS ANGELES! - snip -
>
> Has everyone switched to developing via the mail?

I have since my local lab closed... I wonder how many years
ago it was. Six? Seven? Ten? The mom and pop retired and
moved south to be with the rest of their family. They offered
the processing equipment to me before they left. I knew I
didn't have the knowledge or volume to run it (and my wife
would react badly if I tried to bring it home!).

Since then, I have sent E6 to:
A&I (in Hollywood, California)
Denver Digital (in Denver, Colorado)
Dwayne's Photo (in Parsons, Kansas)

All have done good work for me and I'd recommend any of them.
________________________________________
John Thurston
Juneau, Alaska
http://stereo.thurstons.us
Subject: Re: 120mm film developing .... almost gone completely?
Date: 2011-10-08 17:22:02
From: Linda Nygren

----- "vlagal57" wrote: 

I'm starting to get a little worried about getting E6 developed in LOS ANGELES! The lab that I've been using for 17 years (or more, can't remember now) that assured me just a month ago that B&W and E6 was all that was keeping it going - just closed in the valley (SFV) ... so I did a little looking and it seems like there's only 2 places left in Los Angeles where one can get E6 developed locally!!!

> Has everyone switched to developing via the mail? Has it come to this? Wow. I love my Fuji W3, but I never wanted to give up my Rolli or TL120 ... but it seems that day may come...
> Any suggestions for where to get E6 developed in southern California are welcome... as well as comments on my apparent delusion that E6 would be with us for the rest of my life (25-30 years if I'm lucky..)...
> wow.
> Vlad

 

I have used exclusively mail order for quite some time, since most labs in Minneapolis St Paul quit doing E-6, and the few that remain are geographically very inconvenient (especially for two trips).  Travel time is significant, not to mention the cost of gasoline. Typical turn around time for me has been 7-10 days mailbox to mailbox.

 

I most recently have been using Denver Digital  http://www.theslideprinter.com/  . High quality, reasonable prices, and they have free postage paid mailers to get the film to them. There is a  $5 "handling" fee which includes the return postage. The proprietor (I forget his name) attended the MF meetings at NSA  Colorado this summer, but I was already using the service. I think that perhaps Chuck H was the person who told me about  them at a previous convention? I have also used A&I (prepaid processing mailers from B&H, to which you add postage in the usual manner) in the past, although they may be local for you. Both are high quality labs. And I believe that Dwaynes in Kansas would also be an option for E-6 120.   -Linda

 

Subject: Re: 120mm film developing .... almost gone completely?
Date: 2011-10-08 18:40:05
From: JR
So, anybody know how many E6 labs that process 120 in the U.S. are left?   In the world?

JR


On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Linda Nygren <lnygren@pol.net> wrote:
 


----- "vlagal57" <vlagal57@yahoo.com> wrote: 

I'm starting to get a little worried about getting E6 developed in LOS ANGELES! The lab that I've been using for 17 years (or more, can't remember now) that assured me just a month ago that B&W and E6 was all that was keeping it going - just closed in the valley (SFV) ... so I did a little looking and it seems like there's only 2 places left in Los Angeles where one can get E6 developed locally!!!
> Has everyone switched to developing via the mail? Has it come to this? Wow. I love my Fuji W3, but I never wanted to give up my Rolli or TL120 ... but it seems that day may come...
> Any suggestions for where to get E6 developed in southern California are welcome... as well as comments on my apparent delusion that E6 would be with us for the rest of my life (25-30 years if I'm lucky..)...
> wow.
> Vlad

 

I have used exclusively mail order for quite some time, since most labs in Minneapolis St Paul quit doing E-6, and the few that remain are geographically very inconvenient (especially for two trips).  Travel time is significant, not to mention the cost of gasoline. Typical turn around time for me has been 7-10 days mailbox to mailbox.

 

I most recently have been using Denver Digital  http://www.theslideprinter.com/  . High quality, reasonable prices, and they have free postage paid mailers to get the film to them. There is a  $5 "handling" fee which includes the return postage. The proprietor (I forget his name) attended the MF meetings at NSA  Colorado this summer, but I was already using the service. I think that perhaps Chuck H was the person who told me about  them at a previous convention? I have also used A&I (prepaid processing mailers from B&H, to which you add postage in the usual manner) in the past, although they may be local for you. Both are high quality labs. And I believe that Dwaynes in Kansas would also be an option for E-6 120.   -Linda

 




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Subject: Re: 120mm film developing .... almost gone completely?
Date: 2011-10-08 18:53:42
From: John Rowe
....no clue, but I was planning on getting 5x7 Provia sheets processed at E-6 Lab of Atlanta 404-885-1293  www.e-sixlab.com According to my sheet they still do it all C-41, E6, push/pull
but I may have to call to see if they’re still in business.  John Rowe
 
 
From: JR
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [MF3D-group] 120mm film developing .... almost gone completely?
 
 

So, anybody know how many E6 labs that process 120 in the U.S. are left?   In the world?

JR


On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Linda Nygren <lnygren@pol.net> wrote:
 

----- "vlagal57" <vlagal57@yahoo.com> wrote:

I'm starting to get a little worried about getting E6 developed in LOS ANGELES! The lab that I've been using for 17 years (or more, can't remember now) that assured me just a month ago that B&W and E6 was all that was keeping it going - just closed in the valley (SFV) ... so I did a little looking and it seems like there's only 2 places left in Los Angeles where one can get E6 developed locally!!!
> Has everyone switched to developing via the mail? Has it come to this? Wow. I love my Fuji W3, but I never wanted to give up my Rolli or TL120 ... but it seems that day may come...
> Any suggestions for where to get E6 developed in southern California are welcome... as well as comments on my apparent delusion that E6 would be with us for the rest of my life (25-30 years if I'm lucky..)...
> wow.
> Vlad

 

I have used exclusively mail order for quite some time, since most labs in Minneapolis St Paul quit doing E-6, and the few that remain are geographically very inconvenient (especially for two trips).  Travel time is significant, not to mention the cost of gasoline. Typical turn around time for me has been 7-10 days mailbox to mailbox.

 

I most recently have been using Denver Digital  http://www.theslideprinter.com/  . High quality, reasonable prices, and they have free postage paid mailers to get the film to them. There is a  $5 "handling" fee which includes the return postage. The proprietor (I forget his name) attended the MF meetings at NSA  Colorado this summer, but I was already using the service. I think that perhaps Chuck H was the person who told me about  them at a previous convention? I have also used A&I (prepaid processing mailers from B&H, to which you add postage in the usual manner) in the past, although they may be local for you. Both are high quality labs. And I believe that Dwaynes in Kansas would also be an option for E-6 120.   -Linda

 




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Subject: Re: 120mm film developing .... almost gone completely?
Date: 2011-10-08 21:03:14
From: Peter Bahouth
Re: [MF3D-group] 120mm film developing .... almost gone completely? E-6 Lab in Atlanta is still in business John. (But I’m always worried it won’t be long.....)
I use them all the time for both 35mm, dupes (35mm) and 120 film from my TL-120.
Peter Bahouth



On 10/8/11 8:53 PM, "John Rowe" <rowephoto@comcast.net> wrote:


 
 
   

....no clue, but I was planning on getting 5x7 Provia sheets processed at E-6 Lab of Atlanta 404-885-1293  www.e-sixlab.com <http://www.e-sixlab.com>  According to my sheet they still do it all C-41, E6, push/pull
but I may have to call to see if they’re still in business.  John Rowe
 
From: JR <mailto:stereoscope3d@gmail.com>  
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 8:39 PM
To: MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MF3D-group] 120mm film developing .... almost gone completely?
 
  
So, anybody know how many E6 labs that process 120 in the U.S. are left?   In the world?

JR


On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Linda Nygren <lnygren@pol.net> wrote:

   
 
 
 

-----  "vlagal57" <vlagal57@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
 
 
 
 

I'm starting to get a little worried about getting E6 developed in LOS  ANGELES! The lab that I've been using for 17 years (or more, can't remember  now) that assured me just a month ago that B&W and E6 was all that was  keeping it going - just closed in the valley (SFV) ... so I did a little  looking and it seems like there's only 2 places left in Los Angeles where one  can get E6 developed locally!!!
> Has everyone switched to developing  via the mail? Has it come to this? Wow. I love my Fuji W3, but I never wanted  to give up my Rolli or TL120 ... but it seems that day may come...
> Any  suggestions for where to get E6 developed in southern California are  welcome... as well as comments on my apparent delusion that E6 would be with  us for the rest of my life (25-30 years if I'm lucky..)...
>  wow.
> Vlad
 

 
 

I have used exclusively mail order for quite some time, since most labs in  Minneapolis St Paul quit doing E-6, and the few that remain are geographically  very inconvenient (especially for two trips).  Travel time is  significant, not to mention the cost of gasoline. Typical turn around time for  me has been 7-10 days mailbox to mailbox.
 

 
 

I most recently have been using Denver Digital  http://www.theslideprinter.com/  . High quality,  reasonable prices, and they have free postage paid mailers to get the film to  them. There is a  $5 "handling" fee which includes the return postage.  The proprietor (I forget his name) attended the MF meetings at NSA   Colorado this summer, but I was already using the service. I think that  perhaps Chuck H was the person who told me about  them at a previous  convention? I have also used A&I (prepaid processing mailers from B&H,  to which you add postage in the usual manner) in the past, although they may  be local for you. Both are high quality labs. And I believe that Dwaynes in  Kansas would also be an option for E-6 120.   -Linda
 

 



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Subject: Re: 120mm film developing .... almost gone completely?
Date: 2011-10-09 05:08:12
From: Vladimir Galkin
That's a very interesting question; I was (foolishly) convinced both by the fact that Los Angeles seems like such a huge city and the fact that the lab I had been going to until last month seemed to be doing so well (I had been asking the employees periodically how things were going and they seemed to indicate that everything was fine - I guess I should have asked the owners...) that I would not need to pay for mailing envelopes for many years to come if ever... (to be fair there are still at least 2 E6 labs in Los Angeles, just nowhere close to where I live..)

Does anybody want to venture a guess as to how long before E6 is gone?  Five years? 10? I didn't think it was possible, but seems inevitable, right? Or am I missing something? 

Maybe I'm old fashioned but nothing seems to beat the experience of a MF stereo shot in a good viewer... no plasma TV.... no heads up display...  so we'll have the shots we took but we won't be making new ones in a while...

Sad. (I must be old, I'm starting to sound old even to myself ;-)

Vlad

From: JR
To: MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2011 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [MF3D-group] 120mm film developing .... almost gone completely?

 
So, anybody know how many E6 labs that process 120 in the U.S. are left?   In the world?

JR


On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Linda Nygren <lnygren@pol.net> wrote:
 

----- "vlagal57" <vlagal57@yahoo.com> wrote: 
I'm starting to get a little worried about getting E6 developed in LOS ANGELES! The lab that I've been using for 17 years (or more, can't remember now) that assured me just a month ago that B&W and E6 was all that was keeping it going - just closed in the valley (SFV) ... so I did a little looking and it seems like there's only 2 places left in Los Angeles where one can get E6 developed locally!!!
> Has everyone switched to developing via the mail? Has it come to this? Wow. I love my Fuji W3, but I never wanted to give up my Rolli or TL120 ... but it seems that day may come...
> Any suggestions for where to get E6 developed in southern California are welcome... as well as comments on my apparent delusion that E6 would be with us for the rest of my life (25-30 years if I'm lucky..)...
> wow.
> Vlad
 
I have used exclusively mail order for quite some time, since most labs in Minneapolis St Paul quit doing E-6, and the few that remain are geographically very inconvenient (especially for two trips).  Travel time is significant, not to mention the cost of gasoline. Typical turn around time for me has been 7-10 days mailbox to mailbox.
 
I most recently have been using Denver Digital  http://www.theslideprinter.com/  . High quality, reasonable prices, and they have free postage paid mailers to get the film to them. There is a  $5 "handling" fee which includes the return postage. The proprietor (I forget his name) attended the MF meetings at NSA  Colorado this summer, but I was already using the service. I think that perhaps Chuck H was the person who told me about  them at a previous convention? I have also used A&I (prepaid processing mailers from B&H, to which you add postage in the usual manner) in the past, although they may be local for you. Both are high quality labs. And I believe that Dwaynes in Kansas would also be an option for E-6 120.   -Linda
 



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Subject: Re: 120mm film developing .... almost gone completely?
Date: 2011-10-09 07:17:25
From: David W. Kesner
Hello JR,

> So, anybody know how many E6 labs that process 120 in the U.S. are left?
> In the world?

Well we still have one in little ol' Boise, Idaho.

Thanks,

David W. Kesner
Boise, Idaho, USA
www.dddphotography.com
Subject: Re: 120mm film developing .... almost gone completely?
Date: 2011-10-09 07:47:47
From: Linda Nygren
  "Vladimir Galkin" vlagal57@yahoo.com> wrote: 

>   I was (foolishly) convinced both by the fact that Los Angeles seems like such a huge city and the fact that the lab I had been going to until last month seemed to be doing so well (I had been asking the employees periodically how things were > going and they seemed to indicate that everything was fine - I guess I should have asked the owners...) that I would not need to pay for mailing envelopes for many years to come if ever... (to be fair there are still at least 2 E6 labs in Los

> Angeles, just nowhere close to where I live..)






In my experience the advantage of local processing was speed and avoiding the risk of using the postal service. Cost was usually slightly MORE locally for me. But the shrinking options are a bit alarming.

If you are concerned about "paying for mailing envelopes", I wonder how much were you paying per roll at your previous lab? Denver Digital charges $5.95 per roll for 120 ($7.95 per 35mm), "free" postage both ways if you use their free postage-paid mailers, although there is a $5 handling charge and a $10 minimum order. But two rolls of 120 for $16.90 total isn't bad. I guess one roll would be $15 due to the minimum. No bus fare or gasoline needed. You can request postage paid mailers at
http://www.theslideprinter.com/information/contact-e6-giclee-processing/  

If you buy mailers such as Fuji (processed at Dwaynes) or A&I, you still pay postage TO the lab in addition to cost of the prepaid mailer (first class parcel rates, probably under $2 but annoying to have to figure out and have stamps for; "two stamps" etc will not do it any more). Fuji mailers are $8.75 at B&H, and can be used for either 35mm or 120 processing at Dwaynes, although you still have to pay postage to get the mailers to you (or add them to a film order) plus postage to get the mailers to Kansas. If you send to Dwaynes without a prepaid  mailer you pay $7.50 per roll, plus postage both ways (return postage is $4.50 for first roll, .50 for additional rolls) so two rolls would be $17.50 via mailers or $20 without, plus postage TO them.

Is A&I one of the LA area labs that no longer does E-6, or is phasing it out? That would be unfortunate. But I do not see E-6 mailers any longer at the B&H website (C41 or B&W mailers only), nor at the A&I website. -Linda
Subject: Re: 120mm film developing .... almost gone completely?
Date: 2011-10-09 08:20:41
From: Bill G

Sad. (I must be old, I'm starting to sound old even to myself ;-)

                       too funny..... the sad reality is...anyone that talks about film, or film processing is considered ancient already.... the digital proliferation happened at a faster rate than anyone could have ever imagined....  the good news is, E-6 can be processed in the home, so there will always be home based processors... I know its not ideal, but with once use chemicals the quality of processing can be as good or better than big labs that re-use chemicals...

Bill







Subject: Re: 120mm film developing .... almost gone completely?
Date: 2011-10-09 09:54:13
From: Steven Lederman
There are a few 120 processing places left in Toronto; I continue to use Toronto Image Works, even though they've upped their prices a tad. They never charge extra for push/pull or xpro, though, which is a bonus. There's also at least one place in Montreal that will process 120; L.L. Lozeau.

-Steven Lederman
Subject: Re: 120mm film developing .... almost gone completely?
Date: 2011-10-09 10:12:18
From: Timo
A quick search netted me no fewer than 4 labs in Toronto that are currently processing 120 E6 film in house. 

http://www.torontoimageworks.com/film_processing.html

I imagine worldwide film processing would be quite common. Remember, in many places around the world, professional digital cameras are still too expensive.

Timo

On 8-Oct-11, at 8:39 PM, JR wrote:

 

So, anybody know how many E6 labs that process 120 in the U.S. are left?   In the world?

JR



Subject: Re: 120mm film developing .... almost gone completely?
Date: 2011-10-09 13:33:48
From: Vladimir Galkin
Linda;

I was paying $5.95 plus tax at the local lab that disappeared - total about $6.15 per roll of 120mm, and the nice thing was I could process as I shot, rather than have to wait and process several rolls at once and it was a long walk or a short drive from the house...  As far as I know A&I is still doing E6 but for $8.00 a roll; sort of rich for my blood, but I may try it again (I did use them a few times when I lived in Hollywood almost 20 years ago).  The one I'll be trying now is in west hollywood called the icon (www.iconla.com) their price is $6.50 - plus the drive - but I'll save the film until I need to be in hollywood - which happens once in a while... I'm just griping cause I guess I've been spoiled by having lived in a big city where ANYTHING was available at my door... and this hobby has been an expensive indulgence for a LONG time so I really shouldn't complain - as photographers we all know that the film is (or at least used to be) the cheapest part of the equation...

And I'll look at mail-order processing too. I've used dr5 for some black & white chromes and they were good but slow and expensive, I guess that's the new normal.. such is life..

somebody (with more internet/computer savvy than I)  should start keeping a list of the E6 processing places out there... and we can cross them off the list as they disappear until there's only one left...

Vlad

From: Linda Nygren
To: MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2011 6:47 AM
Subject: Re: [MF3D-group] 120mm film developing .... almost gone completely?

 


  "Vladimir Galkin" vlagal57@yahoo.com> wrote: 

>   I was (foolishly) convinced both by the fact that Los Angeles seems like such a huge city and the fact that the lab I had been going to until last month seemed to be doing so well (I had been asking the employees periodically how things were > going and they seemed to indicate that everything was fine - I guess I should have asked the owners...) that I would not need to pay for mailing envelopes for many years to come if ever... (to be fair there are still at least 2 E6 labs in Los

> Angeles, just nowhere close to where I live..)

In my experience the advantage of local processing was speed and avoiding the risk of using the postal service. Cost was usually slightly MORE locally for me. But the shrinking options are a bit alarming.

If you are concerned about "paying for mailing envelopes", I wonder how much were you paying per roll at your previous lab? Denver Digital charges $5.95 per roll for 120 ($7.95 per 35mm), "free" postage both ways if you use their free postage-paid mailers, although there is a $5 handling charge and a $10 minimum order. But two rolls of 120 for $16.90 total isn't bad. I guess one roll would be $15 due to the minimum. No bus fare or gasoline needed. You can request postage paid mailers at
http://www.theslideprinter.com/information/contact-e6-giclee-processing/  

If you buy mailers such as Fuji (processed at Dwaynes) or A&I, you still pay postage TO the lab in addition to cost of the prepaid mailer (first class parcel rates, probably under $2 but annoying to have to figure out and have stamps for; "two stamps" etc will not do it any more). Fuji mailers are $8.75 at B&H, and can be used for either 35mm or 120 processing at Dwaynes, although you still have to pay postage to get the mailers to you (or add them to a film order) plus postage to get the mailers to Kansas. If you send to Dwaynes without a prepaid  mailer you pay $7.50 per roll, plus postage both ways (return postage is $4.50 for first roll, .50 for additional rolls) so two rolls would be $17.50 via mailers or $20 without, plus postage TO them.

Is A&I one of the LA area labs that no longer does E-6, or is phasing it out? That would be unfortunate. But I do not see E-6 mailers any longer at the B&H website (C41 or B&W mailers only), nor at the A&I website. -Linda



Subject: Re: 120mm film developing .... almost gone completely?
Date: 2011-10-09 15:10:22
From: gredmond2000
Have you tried Laurel Photo Lab in North Hollywood?

http://www.laurelphotolab.com/

I've used them for all my E6 stuff for several years now. They are probably closer to you than A&I, assuming you live in the Valley.

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "vlagal57" wrote:
>
> I'm starting to get a little worried about getting E6 developed in LOS ANGELES! The lab that I've been using for 17 years (or more, can't remember now) that assured me just a month ago that B&W and E6 was all that was keeping it going - just closed in the valley (SFV) ... so I did a little looking and it seems like there's only 2 places left in Los Angeles where one can get E6 developed locally!!!
>
> Has everyone switched to developing via the mail? Has it come to this? Wow. I love my Fuji W3, but I never wanted to give up my Rolli or TL120 ... but it seems that day may come...
>
> Any suggestions for where to get E6 developed in southern California are welcome... as well as comments on my apparent delusion that E6 would be with us for the rest of my life (25-30 years if I'm lucky..)...
>
> wow.
>
> Vlad
>
Subject: Re: 120mm film developing .... almost gone completely?
Date: 2011-10-09 15:17:07
From: roderickdsage
It took 3 weeks to get E-6 120 back from A&I a couple months ago. I have some old mailers, but I see that they no longer list E-6 mailers on their web site:
http://www.aandi.com/cgi-bin/store/agora.cgi
I better use up my mailers ASAP.

There may even come a time sooner than we think, when E-6 chemicals are unavailable, especially with Kodak in the dumps.

Rod S

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, Bill G wrote:
>
> >
> > Sad. (I must be old, I'm starting to sound old even to myself ;-)
>
> too funny..... the sad reality is...anyone that talks about film,
> or film processing is considered ancient already.... the digital proliferation happened at
> a faster rate than anyone could have ever imagined.... the good news is, E-6 can be
> processed in the home, so there will always be home based processors... I know its not
> ideal, but with once use chemicals the quality of processing can be as good or better than
> big labs that re-use chemicals...
>
> Bill
>
Subject: Re: 120mm film developing .... almost gone completely?
Date: 2011-10-09 15:45:10
From: Vladimir Galkin
Thanks! I'll have to check them out - so that's three places in LA that do E6 - there might be more... I wonder what the best way to find them is. I know there are places that say they do it; but they just send it out (one place told me it would take 2-3 WEEKS to get a roll developed...) A simple google search doesn't turn up that many places...

Vlad

From: gredmond2000
To: MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2011 2:10 PM
Subject: [MF3D-group] Re: 120mm film developing .... almost gone completely?

 


Have you tried Laurel Photo Lab in North Hollywood?

http://www.laurelphotolab.com/

I've used them for all my E6 stuff for several years now. They are probably closer to you than A&I, assuming you live in the Valley.

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "vlagal57" wrote:
>
> I'm starting to get a little worried about getting E6 developed in LOS ANGELES! The lab that I've been using for 17 years (or more, can't remember now) that assured me just a month ago that B&W and E6 was all that was keeping it going - just closed in the valley (SFV) ... so I did a little looking and it seems like there's only 2 places left in Los Angeles where one can get E6 developed locally!!!
>
> Has everyone switched to developing via the mail? Has it come to this? Wow. I love my Fuji W3, but I never wanted to give up my Rolli or TL120 ... but it seems that day may come...
>
> Any suggestions for where to get E6 developed in southern California are welcome... as well as comments on my apparent delusion that E6 would be with us for the rest of my life (25-30 years if I'm lucky..)...
>
> wow.
>
> Vlad
>



Subject: Re: 120mm film developing .... almost gone completely?
Date: 2011-10-09 15:49:09
From: JR
Labs used to process every day.   However, running the processors costs the same whether they run one roll or a hundred, so they likely will wait until they have enough rolls to warrant a processing run.   As they get less and less rolls in, the wait times will become longer and longer, until...

JR
stereoscope3d@gmail.com


On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 2:17 PM, roderickdsage <rsage@earthlink.net> wrote:
 


It took 3 weeks to get E-6 120 back from A&I a couple months ago. I have some old mailers, but I see that they no longer list E-6 mailers on their web site:
http://www.aandi.com/cgi-bin/store/agora.cgi
I better use up my mailers ASAP.

There may even come a time sooner than we think, when E-6 chemicals are unavailable, especially with Kodak in the dumps.

Rod S



--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, Bill G wrote:
>
> >
> > Sad. (I must be old, I'm starting to sound old even to myself ;-)
>
> too funny..... the sad reality is...anyone that talks about film,
> or film processing is considered ancient already.... the digital proliferation happened at
> a faster rate than anyone could have ever imagined.... the good news is, E-6 can be
> processed in the home, so there will always be home based processors... I know its not
> ideal, but with once use chemicals the quality of processing can be as good or better than
> big labs that re-use chemicals...
>
> Bill
>




Subject: Re: 120mm film developing .... almost gone completely?
Date: 2011-10-09 20:08:52
From: bob_karambelas
Well, as others have noted, the processing chemicals aren't proprietary, so processing should be possible for as long as film is available. The real question is how long Kodak & Fuji will make the film.

Some interesting perspective here:

http://www.digi-graphics.com/psrvc/svc10_film_processing.html

"Future of E6 Film Processing

While hundreds of labs have discontinued E6 processing over the past few years, DigiGraphics plans to process E6 for as long as there is a need. DigiGraphics is under contract to provide E6 services until 2012, and plans to run continuously through 2015 before reassessing the viability of providing E6 services through 2020."



--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, Vladimir Galkin wrote:
>
> Does anybody want to venture a guess as to how long before E6 is gone?  Five years? 10? I didn't think it was possible, but seems inevitable, right? Or am I missing something? 
>
Subject: Re: 120mm film developing .... almost gone completely?
Date: 2011-10-10 10:45:39
From: Boris Starosta
Stubblefield still does E-6 (dip and dunk) here in little old Charlottesville, VA.   We've been down to just this one E-6 processor for at least six years now.
John S. says he's seen an uptick in the (otherwise depressed) E-6 market.  He credits younger artistic shooters.
Sadly: no nudes.  Thus I have to mail order my processing.

On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 10:08 PM, bob_karambelas <bob_karambelas@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Well, as others have noted, the processing chemicals aren't proprietary, so processing should be possible for as long as film is available. The real question is how long Kodak & Fuji will make the film.

Some interesting perspective here:

http://www.digi-graphics.com/psrvc/svc10_film_processing.html

"Future of E6 Film Processing

While hundreds of labs have discontinued E6 processing over the past few years, DigiGraphics plans to process E6 for as long as there is a need. DigiGraphics is under contract to provide E6 services until 2012, and plans to run continuously through 2015 before reassessing the viability of providing E6 services through 2020."

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, Vladimir Galkin wrote:
>
> Does anybody want to venture a guess as to how long before E6 is gone?  Five years? 10? I didn't think it was possible, but seems inevitable, right? Or am I missing something? 
>




--
A mathematician is a machine for turning coffee into theorems -- Alfréd Rényi


Subject: Re: 120mm film developing .... almost gone completely?
Date: 2011-10-10 16:48:46
From: Brian Reynolds
Vlad wrote:
>
> Any suggestions for where to get E6 developed in southern California
> are welcome... as well as comments on my apparent delusion that E6
> would be with us for the rest of my life (25-30 years if I'm
> lucky..)...

I haven't used them, but Ken Rockwell (whose writing I read for its
entertainment value) recommends North Coast Photo
<http://www.northcoastphoto.com/> in San Diego.

Here in Manhattan we still have many labs that do E-6 in-house. I use
Manhattan Color Labs (4 West 20th Street; New York, NY 10011;
212-807-7373). There's no charge for push or pull processing, and
they do mail order.

In the long run I don't think E-6 processing will go away. There are
companies making E-6 chemical kits for home processing, and the
process is well known and you could mix up the chemicals from scratch
(unlike Kodachrome).

--
Brian Reynolds | "It's just like flying a spaceship.
reynolds@panix.com | You push some buttons and see
http://www.panix.com/~reynolds/ | what happens." -- Zapp Brannigan
NAR# 54438 |
Subject: Re: 120mm film developing .... almost gone completely?
Date: 2011-10-10 18:50:16
From: lattie_smart
I was lucky enough to discover an ad agency / photo gallery in downtown Baltimore, (near my job) that still processes E6 twice a week. They did an excellent job with same day turn-around (on their processing days). I imagine they do mail order too.

www.blakesleeadv.com/

Another great little place is near DC, in Bethesda, who say they will do mail order. They are one of the last, small, independent camera stores left in the area, I imagine, and should be supported too.

www.photographycenter.com/

They are just up the road from where my DC Stereo society holds it's meetings!
Subject: Re: 120mm film developing .... almost gone completely?
Date: 2011-11-17 12:07:33
From: lattie_smart
Took some new rolls to my downtown Baltimore developer...you guessed it...their E-6 unit got crated end of Oct... :-(

Pretty soon, we'll all need to buy mailers to China!

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "lattie_smart" wrote:
>
> I was lucky enough to discover an ad agency / photo gallery in downtown Baltimore, (near my job) that still processes E6 twice a week. They did an excellent job with same day turn-around (on their processing days). I imagine they do mail order too.
>
> www.blakesleeadv.com/
>
> Another great little place is near DC, in Bethesda, who say they will do mail order. They are one of the last, small, independent camera stores left in the area, I imagine, and should be supported too.
>
> www.photographycenter.com/
>
> They are just up the road from where my DC Stereo society holds it's meetings!
>
Subject: Re: 120mm film developing .... almost gone completely?
Date: 2011-11-17 12:14:19
From: John Thurston
lattie_smart wrote:
> Took some new rolls to my downtown Baltimore developer...you guessed it...their E-6 unit got crated end of Oct... :-(

Lattie, I have some A&I mailers.
Do you want a couple?
--
John Thurston
Juneau Alaska
http://stereo.thurstons.us
Subject: Re: 120mm film developing .... almost gone completely?
Date: 2011-11-17 13:39:33
From: sekharni
Try
http://www.northcoastphoto.com/

I send my film to them from wisconsin, they do an excellent job. They have never cut film or made any errors, they are a high volume lab, and have no plans to discontinue e6. 1 week turnaround

Nik

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "lattie_smart" wrote:
>
> Took some new rolls to my downtown Baltimore developer...you guessed it...their E-6 unit got crated end of Oct... :-(
>
> Pretty soon, we'll all need to buy mailers to China!
>
> --- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, "lattie_smart" wrote:
> >
> > I was lucky enough to discover an ad agency / photo gallery in downtown Baltimore, (near my job) that still processes E6 twice a week. They did an excellent job with same day turn-around (on their processing days). I imagine they do mail order too.
> >
> > www.blakesleeadv.com/
> >
> > Another great little place is near DC, in Bethesda, who say they will do mail order. They are one of the last, small, independent camera stores left in the area, I imagine, and should be supported too.
> >
> > www.photographycenter.com/
> >
> > They are just up the road from where my DC Stereo society holds it's meetings!
> >
>
Subject: Re: 120mm film developing .... almost gone completely?
Date: 2011-11-19 07:18:59
From: lattie_smart
I guess I'll just use my local WalMart...it will take 10 days, just as with mail order. I didn't mind paying double for quicker turn around and professional attention. But Walmart hasn't disappointed me (yet). I'm still grateful and surprised they still offer the send-out service - no pharmacies or other dept. stores do it anymore.
I will obviously send push processing or custom stuff to a known lab the next time I need it.

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, John Thurston wrote:
>
> lattie_smart wrote:
> > Took some new rolls to my downtown Baltimore developer...you guessed it...their E-6 unit got crated end of Oct... :-(
>
> Lattie, I have some A&I mailers.
> Do you want a couple?
> --
> John Thurston
> Juneau Alaska
> http://stereo.thurstons.us
>