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Subject: 6 by 9 cm stereo
Date: 2011-10-24 12:59:23
From: sekharni
I would like to try shooting some slide bar or hyper stereos with my Fuji GSW 690 III, which has some super sharp 65mm lenses. How do I view the images other than freeviewing? Are there any mounts or viewers that accomodate an image that size?

Thanks
Nik
Subject: Re: 6 by 9 cm stereo
Date: 2011-10-24 13:19:04
From: John Thurston
sekharni wrote:
> I would like to try shooting some slide bar or hyper stereos with my Fuji GSW 690 III, which has some super sharp 65mm lenses. How do I view the images other than freeviewing? Are there any mounts or viewers that accomodate an image that size?

The 90mm wide images exceed eye spacing for everyone I've
ever seen. This means that there isn't any way to build a
simple optical viewer for this size. By "simple", I mean
lenses only with no mirrors or prisms.

To view 6x9 slides, you're going to need to build something
like a Wheatstone, or tri-delta viewer.

I know John Roll shoots 6x7 with his Mamiya. I understand
his preferred viewing method for these images is projection.
I'm not aware of any projectors for 6x9.
--
John Thurston
Juneau Alaska
http://stereo.thurstons.us
Subject: Re: 6 by 9 cm stereo
Date: 2011-10-24 14:59:58
From: narjan@pipeline.com
>I'm not aware of any projectors for 6x9.
>--
>John Thurston

Buhl optical made 6 X 9 projectors for the US military,
they show up on surplus markets sometimes.

Best Wishes,
John Billingham

P.S. I believe I've seen pictures of John Roll's 6 x 7 viewer
it is a "Wheatstone" design with built in light tablets behind
each transparency.
Subject: Re: 6 by 9 cm stereo
Date: 2011-10-24 15:05:10
From: narjan@pipeline.com
Oh, and.... more "P.S."

I've shot 6 X 9 in vertical orientation on a slide bar
that way you end up with a "transparency cabinet card"
(you'll have to cut your own mounts!)

John Billingham
Subject: Re: 6 by 9 cm stereo
Date: 2011-10-25 12:28:16
From: RodS
A standard Holmes stereocard is 3.5"x7". 180mm is just over 7", so with slight cropping, it should fit nicely on a stereocard size mount. Vertical height and magnification may be low. Then modify a Holmes viewer with a translucent light source.
This would be easiest. Though the vertical idea would be good also.

Rod S

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, John Thurston wrote:
>
> sekharni wrote:
> > I would like to try shooting some slide bar or hyper stereos with my Fuji GSW 690 III, which has some super sharp 65mm lenses. How do I view the images other than freeviewing? Are there any mounts or viewers that accomodate an image that size?
>
Subject: Re: How to view 6 x 9 cm in ortho stereo ?
Date: 2011-10-27 17:04:38
From: Don Lopp
On 10/24/11 11:59 AM, sekharni wrote:
> I would like to try shooting some slide bar or hyper stereos with my
> Fuji GSW 690 III, which has some super sharp 65mm lenses. How do I view
> the images other than freeviewing? Are there any mounts or viewers that
> accomodate an image that size?

John Thurston gave a reply which I am in total agreement with, "the 90mm
wide images exceed eye spacing for every one I've ever seen. This means
that there isn't any way to build a simple viewer for this size."

Apparently John and I are behind times, as about 2 weeks ago I did ask
Bill G.I, (a self implied, Guru, on the latest in MF technology), "how
is it possible to view a 3d image, in ortho, taken with as 47mm lens
-when the image is 69mm wide. the simplistic - (no details included),
answer by Bill G' was -..."through a loupe/mirror system, scan and
resize.' I considered the answer to be a non-answer, of little or no value.

IMO, Nik Skharni should contact Bill G. and inquire for more details, so
that he will be able to view any, future, 6 x 9 3d images in ortho 3d,
apparently using the latest, "loupe/ mirror system, along with latest
digital scan and re-size equipment", as mentioned by Bill G.

Being digitally illiterate, I can only assume that Bill G. does know
what he is talking about, though I do have some doubts.

The very best,

DON
Subject: Re: How to view 6 x 9 cm in ortho stereo ?
Date: 2011-10-27 17:12:09
From: sekharni
Thanks
For the replies
I will try shooting on a slide bar and free viewing the resulting images
Nik
--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, Don Lopp wrote:
>
> On 10/24/11 11:59 AM, sekharni wrote:
> > I would like to try shooting some slide bar or hyper stereos with my
> > Fuji GSW 690 III, which has some super sharp 65mm lenses. How do I view
> > the images other than freeviewing? Are there any mounts or viewers that
> > accomodate an image that size?
>
> John Thurston gave a reply which I am in total agreement with, "the 90mm
> wide images exceed eye spacing for every one I've ever seen. This means
> that there isn't any way to build a simple viewer for this size."
>
> Apparently John and I are behind times, as about 2 weeks ago I did ask
> Bill G.I, (a self implied, Guru, on the latest in MF technology), "how
> is it possible to view a 3d image, in ortho, taken with as 47mm lens
> -when the image is 69mm wide. the simplistic - (no details included),
> answer by Bill G' was -..."through a loupe/mirror system, scan and
> resize.' I considered the answer to be a non-answer, of little or no value.
>
> IMO, Nik Skharni should contact Bill G. and inquire for more details, so
> that he will be able to view any, future, 6 x 9 3d images in ortho 3d,
> apparently using the latest, "loupe/ mirror system, along with latest
> digital scan and re-size equipment", as mentioned by Bill G.
>
> Being digitally illiterate, I can only assume that Bill G. does know
> what he is talking about, though I do have some doubts.
>
> The very best,
>
> DON
>
Subject: Re: How to view 6 x 9 cm in ortho stereo ?
Date: 2011-10-27 20:33:50
From: Bill G
On 10/27/2011 4:29 PM, Don
>
>
> Apparently John and I are behind times, as about 2 weeks ago I did ask
> Bill G.I, (a self implied, Guru, on the latest in MF technology), "how
> is it possible to view a 3d image, in ortho, taken with as 47mm lens
> -when the image is 69mm wide. the simplistic - (no details included),
> answer by Bill G' was -..."through a loupe/mirror system, scan and
> resize.' I considered the answer to be a non-answer, of little or no value.
>

Remember Don, just because you do not understand something, doesn't make it untrue.... I
know that is a hard pill to swallow....

>
>
> Being digitally illiterate, I can only assume that Bill G. does know
> what he is talking about, though I do have some doubts.
>
You have had lots of doubts about everything I write Don, but when I challenge you, to see
just how strong your convictions are about my false statements, and offer you cash if your
doubts are valid..... you put your tail between your legs and run-off. What does that suggest?


Regards
Bill g



> The very best,
>
> DON
>
>