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Subject: included lens shade for tl 120
Date: 2012-03-24 09:44:33
From: sekharni
Has anyone used the includeed triple rectangular lens shade?

Doe it vignette at any aperture? I couldnt use it with filters, is that normal?

Thanks
Nik
Subject: Re: included lens shade for tl 120
Date: 2012-03-25 19:27:19
From: John Thurston
On 3/24/2012 7:44 AM, sekharni wrote:
> Has anyone used the includeed triple rectangular lens shade?
>
> Doe it vignette at any aperture? I couldnt use it with filters, is that normal?

Mine is un-used is a drawer somewhere.

Like the f/2.8 lenses on the camera, it is bigger and bulkier
than it needs to be. It may be effective, but it makes the
focusing action sticky, prevents the use of filters, and is
just plain ugly.
________________________________________
John Thurston
Juneau, Alaska
http://stereo.thurstons.us
Subject: Re: included lens shade for tl 120
Date: 2012-04-01 15:51:03
From: David Richardson
 Yes,
 I've used the makers lens shade and found it impossible to focus easily and totally unusable if filters are attached to the lenses. My hope is and improved model has been made by the chinese firm. Right now, using after market shades is the solution. Those being on the taking lenses only. Not the focusing/viewing lens.
 As for the original lens it works well and doesn't any vignette problems. One just focuses and then puts on the shade for the actual exposer. Tiresome to be sure but of well, until the improved model comes along...
 What other war stories does the forum have?
 Roger

From: sekharni
To: MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 8:44 AM
Subject: [MF3D-group] included lens shade for tl 120

 
Has anyone used the includeed triple rectangular lens shade?

Doe it vignette at any aperture? I couldnt use it with filters, is that normal?

Thanks
Nik



Subject: Re: included lens shade for tl 120
Date: 2012-04-01 18:48:07
From: Bob Venezia
I've never noticed vignetting with the supplied shades. You probably want to focus first and then put on the shades. I ruined 3 rolls of shots last week by NOT using them. I think they are awesome.

And yes, they are designed to go straight on the lens without filters.

Alternately, If there is strong light coming from the side and I can see it is hitting my lens I might just stand to one side of my camera to cast a shadow on the lens and trigger the shutter with a cable release.

Bob Venezia
Seattle, Washington

On Apr 1, 2012, at 2:51 PM, David Richardson wrote:

>
> Yes,
> I've used the makers lens shade and found it impossible to focus easily and totally unusable if filters are attached to the lenses. My hope is and improved model has been made by the chinese firm. Right now, using after market shades is the solution. Those being on the taking lenses only. Not the focusing/viewing lens.
> As for the original lens it works well and doesn't any vignette problems. One just focuses and then puts on the shade for the actual exposer. Tiresome to be sure but of well, until the improved model comes along...
> What other war stories does the forum have?
> Roger
>
> From: sekharni <sekharni@yahoo.com>
> To: MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 8:44 AM
> Subject: [MF3D-group] included lens shade for tl 120
>
>
> Has anyone used the includeed triple rectangular lens shade?
>
> Doe it vignette at any aperture? I couldnt use it with filters, is that normal?
>
> Thanks
> Nik
>
>
>
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>
Subject: Re: included lens shade for tl 120
Date: 2012-04-01 22:10:33
From: Dale Yingst
I just use cheap collapsible rubber lens hoods on the two taking
lenses. They do not protrude past the lens when not needed and the
ribbed flat black rubber interiors are great at not reflecting light.
No on and off and extra bulk hassles.

Dale Yingst
Subject: Re: included lens shade for tl 120
Date: 2012-04-02 14:32:36
From: Timo
This is my kind of solution. I wish I thought of it first.

Timo

On 2-Apr-12, at 12:07 AM, Dale Yingst wrote:

> I just use cheap collapsible rubber lens hoods on the two taking
> lenses. They do not protrude past the lens when not needed and the
> ribbed flat black rubber interiors are great at not reflecting light.
> No on and off and extra bulk hassles.
>
> Dale Yingst
>
Subject: Re: included lens shade for tl 120
Date: 2012-04-02 15:37:37
From: John Thurston
Dale Yingst wrote:
> I just use cheap collapsible rubber lens hoods on the two taking
> lenses. They do not protrude past the lens when not needed and the
> ribbed flat black rubber interiors are great at not reflecting light.
> No on and off and extra bulk hassles.

I tried several different screw-on hoods before finding some
I liked. I did try some generic collapsible rubber hoods,
but found they vignetted, interfered with my lens caps, and
(being rubber) stuck to things inside my pack. When cold,
they would retain any dents or deformations from packing.

I finally settled on some aluminum screw-on hoods. I have
one set for my TL120-1 and a different set for my TL120-55.
The former are almost straight sided. The later were made
for use on range-finder 35mm cameras so are back-cut so you
can see through them. Both accept clip-on lens caps and are
sturdy enough to leave on the camera when retuning it to my
pack.

I have a pair of cylindrical cases, each labeled for one of
the previously mentioned cameras:
http://www.republicoftea.com/images/200/v00583.jpg
Each has a cable release, cold-shoe level, and the correct
hoods, caps for the camera.

I can't think of any reason to use a hood on the finder lens.
--
John Thurston
Juneau Alaska
http://stereo.thurstons.us
Subject: Re: included lens shade for tl 120
Date: 2012-04-03 15:30:58
From: Dale Yingst
On 4/2/2012 5:37 PM, John Thurston wrote:
> I tried several different screw-on hoods before finding some
> I liked. I did try some generic collapsible rubber hoods,
> but found they vignetted, interfered with my lens caps, and
> (being rubber) stuck to things inside my pack. When cold,
> they would retain any dents or deformations from packing.
>
>
I had none of your mentioned problems, although I don't get Alaska cold
weather in Pennsylvania. I screwed the lens hoods on first, then the
UV filters. At least with my cheap lens shade pair and by putting the
hood on first , there was no vignetting and the lens caps went on as
easy as not having hoods.

Dale Yingst
Subject: Re: included lens shade for tl 120
Date: 2012-04-15 14:20:20
From: sekharni
Thanks for the great info guys!
Nik