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Subject: Anyone else drooling over Item number: 110869406420?
Date: 2012-05-03 11:14:41
From: coronet3d
I have a Graflex XL (6x9) with a f8 47mm Super Angulon and I've found that for interiors - to get noticeable depth - I have to slide the camera 120mm on a slide bar. With this camera, I assume the separation is 70mm and I'm thinking that to get anything out of it, I'd have to have a close object in nearly every scene. The 6x7 is a nice idea - it allows for much greater cropping and for a 47mm lens, as mentioned above it's not critical to space the lenses close together - in fact I've found the opposite to be better.
Steve
Subject: Re: Anyone else drooling over Item number: 110869406420?
Date: 2012-05-03 14:22:59
From: Bob Aldridge
Well, I wasn't drooling over it because I hadn't even noticed it!

But it will go for far more than I w2ould pay for it - unless I sold my Chinese camera set... But then, I have my Rolleidoscop so I mustn't be greedy :)

Bob Aldridge

On 03/05/2012 18:14, coronet3d wrote:
 

I have a Graflex XL (6x9) with a f8 47mm Super Angulon and I've found that for interiors - to get noticeable depth - I have to slide the camera 120mm on a slide bar. With this camera, I assume the separation is 70mm and I'm thinking that to get anything out of it, I'd have to have a close object in nearly every scene. The 6x7 is a nice idea - it allows for much greater cropping and for a 47mm lens, as mentioned above it's not critical to space the lenses close together - in fact I've found the opposite to be better.
Steve


Subject: Re: Anyone else drooling over Item number: 110869406420?
Date: 2012-05-03 17:37:30
From: coronet3d
Matched Super Angulons is the real selling point. They're the more modern f5.6 variety. My f8 Super Angulons are not quite as sharp as my f4 50mm CZJ Flektogons - but they cover 6x9 and that's a lot to ask of 47mm lenses. I'm sure the f5.6s are better. It's a shame all they're getting out of them is 6x7 as they're capable of much greater coverage.
Steve
Subject: Re: [!! SPAM] [MF3D-group] Anyone else drooling over Item number: 1
Date: 2012-05-04 18:03:16
From: Bill G
I am curious how the shutter sync is on this camera....
The optics are a bit dated, but if it sells for under $2k, quite a camera from the pix




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Subject: Re: [!! SPAM] [MF3D-group] Anyone else drooling over Item number: 1
Date: 2012-05-04 19:52:27
From: coronet3d
--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, Bill G wrote:
>
> I am curious how the shutter sync is on this camera....
> The optics are a bit dated, but if it sells for under $2k, quite a camera from the pix
>
I was questioning that too. Plus as it's a prototype, I'm not sure the shutters are linked well enough so that the shutter speeds are/will stay identical. To my knowledge the f5.6 is the most recent version of this lens, and they do go for big bucks when sold separately.
Steve
Subject: Re: [!! SPAM] [MF3D-group] Anyone else drooling over Item number: 1
Date: 2012-05-05 11:18:24
From: Brian Reynolds
coronet3d wrote:
> --- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, Bill G wrote:
> >
> > I am curious how the shutter sync is on this camera.... The
> > optics are a bit dated, but if it sells for under $2k, quite a
> > camera from the pix
> >
> I was questioning that too. Plus as it's a prototype, I'm not sure
> the shutters are linked well enough so that the shutter speeds
> are/will stay identical. To my knowledge the f5.6 is the most
> recent version of this lens, and they do go for big bucks when sold
> separately.

The most recent version is the Super-Angulon XL. I can't quite tell
from the ebay auction photos if that is the version of the lenses on
the camera being offered.

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Subject: Re: Anyone else drooling over Item number: 110869406420?
Date: 2012-05-16 23:18:02
From: John Thurston
On 5/3/2012 9:14 AM, coronet3d wrote:
> I have a Graflex XL (6x9) with a f8 47mm Super Angulon and I've found that for interiors - to get noticeable depth - I have to slide the camera 120mm on a slide bar. With this camera, I assume the separation is 70mm and I'm thinking that to get anything out of it, I'd have to have a close object in nearly every scene. The 6x7 is a nice idea - it allows for much greater cropping and for a 47mm lens, as mentioned above it's not critical to space the lenses close together - in fact I've found the opposite to be better.

It went for more than $2,400
I wasn't in there fighting for it.
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John Thurston
Juneau, Alaska
http://stereo.thurstons.us
Subject: Re: Anyone else drooling over Item number: 110869406420?
Date: 2012-05-17 07:32:30
From: coronet3d
--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, John Thurston wrote:
>
> It went for more than $2,400
> I wasn't in there fighting for it.

My issue was that if there were problems - who would I send it to to fix it? The price it fetched was fair because if you broke up the parts - you could easily get $2000.
Steve
Subject: Re: Anyone else drooling over Item number: 110869406420?
Date: 2012-05-18 02:37:06
From: Steven Lederman
RBT still has a repair shop in operation to service their gear;  however, out of curiosity I asked them how much it would've cost to fix the shutter on Dr. T.'s eBay RBT, and all told it was bout 500 Euros.
So I'm sure it wouldn't be convenient or inexpensive to ship that medium format prototype  to RBT for servicing!
-S