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Subject: Are the Tl-120-1 cameras still in production?
Date: 2012-10-17 19:58:56
From: David Richardson

Hello fellow medium 3D fans,

In all this discussion of various viewers, my question is one of, are the cameras still in prodiction? And/or can new 45 degree view- finders be had alone, not with whole camera purchase? My viewfinder had its final optic come out of place with the softest of efforts to clean the lens. No email to the address has gained any return.

What is the state of the production facility and the assorted sub-systems?

Thanks for your efforts,

David.

Subject: Re: Are the Tl-120-1 cameras still in production?
Date: 2012-10-17 22:25:04
From: tpuhakka@ymail.com

The TL120 is out of production, with no hope of restarting. Dr-T may have better information as to whether repairs are still being done. You may want to start looking for a local camera repair man.

Timo

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, David Richardson wrote:
>
> Hello fellow medium 3D fans,
> In all this discussion of various viewers, my question is one of, are the cameras still in prodiction? And/or can new 45 degree view- finders be had alone, not with whole camera purchase? My viewfinder had its final optic come out of place with the softest of efforts to clean the lens. No email to the address has gained any return.
> What is the state of the production facility and the assorted sub-systems?
> Thanks for your efforts,
> David.
>

Subject: Re: Are the Tl-120-1 cameras still in production?
Date: 2012-10-18 01:40:53
From: John Thurston

On 10/17/2012 5:58 PM, David Richardson wrote:

> Hello fellow medium 3D fans,
> In all this discussion of various viewers, my question is one of, are the cameras still in prodiction?

Nope

> And/or can new 45 degree view- finders be had alone,

Nope
Your best solution is to get a hasselblad or Kiev finder and use that.
It slips right on. The only thing you wont have is the built-in camera
meter.

> What is the state of the production facility and the assorted sub-systems?

Gone.

John Thurston
Juneau, Alaska

Subject: Re: Are the Tl-120-1 cameras still in production?
Date: 2012-10-18 04:55:14
From: coronet3d

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, John Thurston wrote:

> Your best solution is to get a hasselblad or Kiev finder and use that.
> It slips right on. The only thing you wont have is the built-in camera
> meter.

Arsenal (Kiev) makes a metered prism. It won't work on a TL-120?
Steve

Subject: Re: Are the Tl-120-1 cameras still in production?
Date: 2012-10-18 07:25:12
From: George Themelis

As far as I know, 3D World still services the camera.

Contact me off line if you want me to bring you in touch with the company
for repairs.

George

Subject: Re: Are the Tl-120-1 cameras still in production?
Date: 2012-10-18 10:17:45
From: John Thurston

On 10/18/2012 2:55 AM, coronet3d wrote:

> --- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, John Thurston wrote:
>> Your best solution is to get a hasselblad or Kiev finder and use that.
>> It slips right on. The only thing you wont have is the built-in camera
>> meter.
> Arsenal (Kiev) makes a metered prism. It won't work on a TL-120?

Certainly it will. Any prism containing its own meter will work
perfectly. The issue is that only the appropriate 3D-World prism will
permit the _in camera_ meter to work.

I have seen at least three different versions of the prism/meter
combination in the Tl120 cameras. The meter circuit inside the TL120
will not work without the correct prism being attached to the camera.
Without the correct prism, the lights will light but the display will be
meaningless.

John Thurston
Juneau, Alaska

Subject: Re: Are the Tl-120-1 cameras still in production?
Date: 2012-10-21 18:40:18
From: lattie_smart

I've found my early version TL-120 meter to be too center-weighted, or something, to be reliable or useful to me. I just use my trusty, retro Gossen Selenium....(and, before you laugh, I've won competitions w/ shots metered with it).

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, John Thurston wrote:
>
> On 10/18/2012 2:55 AM, coronet3d wrote:
> > --- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, John Thurston wrote:
> >> Your best solution is to get a hasselblad or Kiev finder and use that.
> >> It slips right on. The only thing you wont have is the built-in camera
> >> meter.
> > Arsenal (Kiev) makes a metered prism. It won't work on a TL-120?
>
> Certainly it will. Any prism containing its own meter will work
> perfectly. The issue is that only the appropriate 3D-World prism will
> permit the _in camera_ meter to work.
>
> I have seen at least three different versions of the prism/meter
> combination in the Tl120 cameras. The meter circuit inside the TL120
> will not work without the correct prism being attached to the camera.
> Without the correct prism, the lights will light but the display will be
> meaningless.
>
> John Thurston
> Juneau, Alaska
>

Subject: Re: Are the Tl-120-1 cameras still in production?
Date: 2012-10-21 19:10:54
From: John Thurston

On 10/21/2012 4:40 PM, lattie_smart wrote:

> I've found my early version TL-120 meter to be too center-weighted, or something, to be reliable or useful to me. I just use my trusty, retro Gossen Selenium....(and, before you laugh, I've won competitions w/ shots metered with it).

Who's laughing? I still use my Weston from time to time.
Though I have to admit that my battery-powered Sekonic L208 sees more
use than the Weston. It weighs less and retains its needle setting for a
few seconds.

John Thurston
Juneau, Alaska