On 6/2/2013 10:50 AM, David Richardson wrote:

> Ok everybody, This discussion group needs to have more conversation
> than the crickets (my sympathy's to those of you whom will be beset
> by those red eyed cicadas. We don't have those out here in the upper
> left hand corner of the 48 contiguous US map*). Anyway, in past
> stereo travel days, purchase of film was needed beyond the typical
> two (20 count) roll bricks that didn't seem to raise a single customs
> eyebrow. Now as we analog fans face the road again, what is the
> number of rolls allowed for international travel?

How international are you going? Here (off the upper left corner of the
48 contiguous US map), I've never been given any grief at the Canadian
border about my film. They are much more worried about fresh produce and
firearms.

Any kind of flying, however, becomes very painful with film. It doesn't
matter if it is domestic or international. The last time I tried, they
opened every single roll in every factory-sealed box for swabbing. All
while I sputtered and fumed.
When I do travel with film, I also travel with Denver Digital mailers. I
send the film for processing as soon as it is shot and the slides are
waiting at the post office when I return.

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> So, Ok road warrior's, what does the world say about our beloved (now
> quaint) film. Rumor has it to be 10 rolls per camera. Can we afford
> our precious stuff overseas and not upset our retirement funds?

I'm sure this varies wildly by country.

--
John Thurston
Juneau, Alaska

I have given up on carrying my film past the X-ray. I have found that it has no effect on my Provia 100f or 400x.

Timo

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, John Thurston wrote:
>
> On 6/2/2013 10:50 AM, David Richardson wrote:
> > Ok everybody, This discussion group needs to have more conversation
> > than the crickets (my sympathy's to those of you whom will be beset
> > by those red eyed cicadas. We don't have those out here in the upper
> > left hand corner of the 48 contiguous US map*). Anyway, in past
> > stereo travel days, purchase of film was needed beyond the typical
> > two (20 count) roll bricks that didn't seem to raise a single customs
> > eyebrow. Now as we analog fans face the road again, what is the
> > number of rolls allowed for international travel?
>
> How international are you going? Here (off the upper left corner of the
> 48 contiguous US map), I've never been given any grief at the Canadian
> border about my film. They are much more worried about fresh produce and
> firearms.
>
> Any kind of flying, however, becomes very painful with film. It doesn't
> matter if it is domestic or international. The last time I tried, they
> opened every single roll in every factory-sealed box for swabbing. All
> while I sputtered and fumed.
> When I do travel with film, I also travel with Denver Digital mailers. I
> send the film for processing as soon as it is shot and the slides are
> waiting at the post office when I return.
>
> - snip -
> > So, Ok road warrior's, what does the world say about our beloved (now
> > quaint) film. Rumor has it to be 10 rolls per camera. Can we afford
> > our precious stuff overseas and not upset our retirement funds?
>
> I'm sure this varies wildly by country.
>
> --
> John Thurston
> Juneau, Alaska
>

 

I have given up on carrying my film past the X-ray. I have found that it has no effect on my Provia 100f or 400x.

How many trips through do you account for?

I had some 400x film that I was religiously protecting, up until some idiot in Amsterdam put it through, against my protests. No hint of any harm.

My best MF images have been X-rayed twice. Once before exposure and once after. I am starting to think that the X-rays make the images better.

Timo

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, John Thurston wrote:
>
>
>
> On Jun 4, 2013, at 12:28 PM, "tpuhakka@..." wrote:
>
> > I have given up on carrying my film past the X-ray. I have found that it has no effect on my Provia 100f or 400x.
> >
>
> How many trips through do you account for?
> Each time they back the belt up and have another look, they are zapping it again.
>
> I suppose I could take a roll out to the air port and ask them to nuke it six times. Then I could do a side by side shoot with an unexposed roll and see if there is a difference. 'Course, in the US, making such a request of the machine operator might get me arrested :)
>
> john thurston
> Juneau, alaska
> >
>

John Thurston wrote:

> On Jun 4, 2013, at 12:28 PM, "tpuhakka@ymail.com" <tpuhakka@ymail.com> wrote:
>
> > I have given up on carrying my film past the X-ray. I have found
> > that it has no effect on my Provia 100f or 400x.
>
> How many trips through do you account for?
> Each time they back the belt up and have another look, they are
> zapping it again.
>
> I suppose I could take a roll out to the air port and ask them to
> nuke it six times. Then I could do a side by side shoot with an
> unexposed roll and see if there is a difference. 'Course, in the US,
> making such a request of the machine operator might get me arrested
> :)

I would recommend going to google.com, and entering the following:

site:kodak.com airport x-ray

In particular Technical Information Bulletin 5201 "X-ray Scanning
Effects on Film" explains the situation, provides examples of X-ray
fogging, and gives recommendations.

I have traveled with 120 slide film in my carry-on without X-ray
fogging. On one trip with multiple flight connections, and scans I
carried Kodak Readyloads (4x5 sheet film in cardboard packets) without
any trouble.

I would suggest that you keep all your film in a clear plastic bag in
your camera bag. When you get to the security checkpoint pull the
film bag out of your camera bag, and put them in separate bins. You
might even want to put a third bin with your personal items, computer,
handbag, etc. in between the film and camera bins. This way if
anything in your camera bag causes it to be rescanned your film won't
get a second dose.

I don't travel by air much any more because of all the hassles.

--
Brian Reynolds | "It's just like flying a spaceship.
reynolds@panix.com | You push some buttons and see
http://www.panix.com/~reynolds/ | what happens." -- Zapp Brannigan
NAR# 54438 |

I would be more concerned about the 100 speed film than the 400.  In general, films that are more sensitive to visible light are less sensitive to X-rays.   X-ray film itself is very slow in visible light.  In tests that I ran several years ago, it was the slow speed emulsions, like 25 ASA Kodachrome and Panatomic-X that were most easily fogged by X-rays.

JR

On Jun 4, 2013 1:28 PM, "tpuhakka@ymail.com" <tpuhakka@ymail.com> wrote:

 

I have given up on carrying my film past the X-ray. I have found that it has no effect on my Provia 100f or 400x.

Timo

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, John Thurston wrote:
>
> On 6/2/2013 10:50 AM, David Richardson wrote:
> > Ok everybody, This discussion group needs to have more conversation
> > than the crickets (my sympathy's to those of you whom will be beset
> > by those red eyed cicadas. We don't have those out here in the upper
> > left hand corner of the 48 contiguous US map*). Anyway, in past
> > stereo travel days, purchase of film was needed beyond the typical
> > two (20 count) roll bricks that didn't seem to raise a single customs
> > eyebrow. Now as we analog fans face the road again, what is the
> > number of rolls allowed for international travel?
>
> How international are you going? Here (off the upper left corner of the
> 48 contiguous US map), I've never been given any grief at the Canadian
> border about my film. They are much more worried about fresh produce and
> firearms.
>
> Any kind of flying, however, becomes very painful with film. It doesn't
> matter if it is domestic or international. The last time I tried, they
> opened every single roll in every factory-sealed box for swabbing. All
> while I sputtered and fumed.
> When I do travel with film, I also travel with Denver Digital mailers. I
> send the film for processing as soon as it is shot and the slides are
> waiting at the post office when I return.
>
> - snip -
> > So, Ok road warrior's, what does the world say about our beloved (now
> > quaint) film. Rumor has it to be 10 rolls per camera. Can we afford
> > our precious stuff overseas and not upset our retirement funds?
>
> I'm sure this varies wildly by country.
>
> --
> John Thurston
> Juneau, Alaska
>

In the past couple of years I've traveled from Canada to Cuba, Israel, and Florida by plane. On all three occasions I brought two lead-lined airline film travel bags stuffed with as many medium format rolls as they would hold. I think they will hold 32 rolls apiece ( foil pouches stripped of their boxes).
For Cuba I had my TL-120, for Israel I had my Rolleidoscop and a Sony TD10, and for Florida I had a Sam Smith folding stereo camera and a 16mm Simda.
For each flight I asked to have my film hand-inspected as opposed to having it passed through the x-ray machines. In Israel, I had to make the same request not only at the airport, but also when walking through the Wailing Wall checkpoint.
Haven't had any problems yet.

Steven

--- In MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com, David Richardson wrote:
>
>   Ok everybody,
>  
>   Anyway, in past stereo travel days, purchase of film was needed beyond the typical two (20 count) roll bricks that didn't seem to raise a single customs eyebrow. Now as we analog fans face the road again, what is the number of rolls allowed for international travel?
>
> If anyone knows the formal (current) reg's for certain.
>