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Subject: Looking for another experimenter with swing lenses.
Date: 2013-11-01 12:18:31
From: David Richardson
 Hello,
 Just a quick check to see if there are any (perhaps many) others doing swing lens stereo images. So far the work has been gathering and one wondered if there is a salon or user-group for ultra wide stereographers already? One remembers meeting ultrawide fans in an Amsterdam coffeehouse but how many are here in the North America?  
Subject: Re: Looking for another experimenter with swing lenses.
Date: 2013-11-01 14:53:01
From: John Thurston
On 11/1/2013 10:18 AM, David Richardson wrote:
> Hello,
> Just a quick check to see if there are any (perhaps many) others doing swing lens stereo images. So far the work has been gathering and one wondered if there is a salon or user-group for ultra wide stereographers already? One remembers meeting ultrawide fans in an Amsterdam coffeehouse but how many are here in the North America?

I've wanted to do some swing-lens images, but the startup
costs have slowed me down. With what are you shooting and
what subjects to find most satisfying in the wide format?

How are you mounting your images for viewing (or are you
scanning for digital presentation)?
--
John Thurston
Juneau Alaska
http://stereo.thurstons.us
Subject: Re: Looking for another experimenter with swing lenses.
Date: 2013-11-01 15:04:35
From: Bob
I've been shooting panoramic pairs for some years using a pair of Widelux f8 cameras. The rig used to belong to John Dukes.

But, this is an international list, and I'm in the UK, so that doesn't add to the knowlege of how many there are in North America... :)

Bob Aldridge

On 01/11/2013 20:53, John Thurston wrote:
 

On 11/1/2013 10:18 AM, David Richardson wrote:
> Hello,
> Just a quick check to see if there are any (perhaps many) others doing swing lens stereo images. So far the work has been gathering and one wondered if there is a salon or user-group for ultra wide stereographers already? One remembers meeting ultrawide fans in an Amsterdam coffeehouse but how many are here in the North America?

I've wanted to do some swing-lens images, but the startup
costs have slowed me down. With what are you shooting and
what subjects to find most satisfying in the wide format?

How are you mounting your images for viewing (or are you
scanning for digital presentation)?
--
John Thurston
Juneau Alaska
http://stereo.thurstons.us


Subject: Re: Looking for another experimenter with swing lenses.
Date: 2013-11-01 15:05:39
From: David Richardson
  So far the use of two Horizon camera bodies (perfekt), on a horizontal stand has produced  52mm images (not sure) film chips mounted on the horizontal cardboard mounts and viewed in a Chinese built steal-the-light viewer.
  I know there is a group that uses the old Fuji X-pan (Hasselblad renamed) bodies. Ran into such a fan in Portland, OR. There must be some variations on these dual camera systems. Interested in hearing from others.
 


On Friday, November 1, 2013 1:53 PM, John Thurston wrote:
 
On 11/1/2013 10:18 AM, David Richardson wrote:
> Hello,
> Just a quick check to see if there are any (perhaps many) others doing swing lens stereo images. So far the work has been gathering and one wondered if there is a salon or user-group for ultra wide stereographers already? One remembers meeting ultrawide fans in an Amsterdam coffeehouse but how many are here in the North America?

I've wanted to do some swing-lens images, but the startup
costs have slowed me down. With what are you shooting and
what subjects to find most satisfying in the wide format?

How are you mounting your images for viewing (or are you
scanning for digital presentation)?
--
John Thurston
Juneau Alaska
http://stereo.thurstons.us


Subject: Re: Looking for another experimenter with swing lenses.
Date: 2013-11-10 19:42:43
From: coronet3d

I tried to do swing lens stereos with a pair of Horizont cameras (metal predecessor of the Horizon).  IMO, they're not very well suited for stereo but are fantastic for 2D work.  First of all, matching lenses is much more difficult than other cameras IMO.  I think the issue is that small differences in focal length are magnified by the size of the image area relative to the lens.  I found large discrepancies in coverage between cameras.  Second, since the inter-ocular separation of the lenses varies across the image, composition is challenging.  For instance, I've seen that many stereo photographers try to grab a foreground object to add depth to an otherwise flat scene.  If you try that with a swing lens camera, you have to be mindful of where in the scene that foreground object sits and how it will be rendered in 3D.  If it's in either far end of the scene it will have less depth.  Of course this doesn't affect vertical panoramas, and I've done a few of those too but they don't have the visual impact of a full 6x6 transparency IMO.  Maybe the Hassy camera would deliver better results but that's way out of my price range.

Steve 



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 Hello,
 Just a quick check to see if there are any (perhaps many) others doing swing lens stereo images. So far the work has been gathering and one wondered if there is a salon or user-group for ultra wide stereographers already? One remembers meeting ultrawide fans in an Amsterdam coffeehouse but how many are here in the North America?