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On Nov 17, 2016, at 6:51 AM, ron@studio3d.com [MF3D-group] <MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

When you called I thought you were looking just for processing medium format. I would suggest you scan and find a place that can output MF from digital. I'm pretty sure I know a guy if you can't find anyone.

ron labbe
studio 3D

Subject: Re: Any labs that can dupe Medium Format transparencies?
Date: 2016-11-17 11:08:29
From: Vladimir Galkin

Geoff;

Just curious (not trying to start a brand debate ;-) why you would choose this older camera rather than something newer by one of the 'bigger' camera companies (Canon/Nikon/Sony) ... ?

also; just curious which 4K monitor you're shooting - I recently saw a Canon calibrated Medical monitor and it was incredible, it looked like it had depth without stereo (if you know what I mean)...

Vlad

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On Nov 17, 2016, at 6:51 AM, ron@studio3d.com [MF3D-group] <MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

When you called I thought you were looking just for processing medium format. I would suggest you scan and find a place that can output MF from digital. I'm pretty sure I know a guy if you can't find anyone.

ron labbe
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Subject: Re: Any labs that can dupe Medium Format transparencies?
Date: 2016-11-17 12:35:44
From: geoffrey waldo

Sigma dp2 and dp3 have optical system that is essentially perfectly matched to sensor. Lens system approaching the old MF mamiya 6 film cameras. Astonishing images. And the sensor is a stacked array rather than Bayer, so RGB have equal spatial sampling.

It is truly astounding.

Downside is: lower ISO must be used at 100 or 200. Tripod is good.

Any 4 K screen with 8 actual bits is fine as long as you calibrate it. I'm using a Seiki.

G

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On Nov 17, 2016, at 10:08 AM, Vladimir Galkin vlagal57@yahoo.com [MF3D-group] <MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Geoff;

Just curious (not trying to start a brand debate ;-) why you would choose this older camera rather than something newer by one of the 'bigger' camera companies (Canon/Nikon/Sony) ... ?

also; just curious which 4K monitor you're shooting - I recently saw a Canon calibrated Medical monitor and it was incredible, it looked like it had depth without stereo (if you know what I mean)...

Vlad

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Try the sigma DP2. Amazing optics and can be had for $400. I paired a couple using a pneumatic release and bracket. I can send pics of the setup around. I've started playing with that and then photographing a suitably calibrated 4K monitor with my...wait for it...3D World 120. It's not quite as nice as direct image capture. Still pretty lovely.
Geoff

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On Nov 17, 2016, at 6:51 AM, ron@studio3d.com [MF3D-group] <MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

When you called I thought you were looking just for processing medium format. I would suggest you scan and find a place that can output MF from digital. I'm pretty sure I know a guy if you can't find anyone.

ron labbe
studio 3D

Subject: Re: Any labs that can dupe Medium Format transparencies?
Date: 2016-11-21 16:25:02
From: Steven Lederman

Further to the duplication discussion, does anyone know someone who can make a medium format stereo slide out of a medium format stereo black and white negative? Dr5 does not provide this service.

-Steven

Subject: Re: Any labs that can dupe Medium Format transparencies?
Date: 2016-11-21 21:18:38
From: iandvaag

I don't know of any labs that offer this service, but I have tried contact printing 120 negatives at home with reasonable success. I used Arista 4x5 Ortho Litho film which is extremely inexpensive, but perhaps a bit too high in contrast. I developed in dilute Dektol if I recall correctly, so perhaps lower contrast developer would be more suitable. It's not too challenging, you just the copy film, a piece of glass, a light bulb and the usual b&w processing chemicals. The trickiest issue I came across was dust -- it's very hard to keep everything as clean as is required. The Ortho film is nice because it is orthochromatic, i.e. you can use a red safely and develop by inspection rather than stumbling around in the dark. I haven't tried it yet but Ilford makes an ortho copy film which might offer better continuous tone contrast. Just a tip: if you use 4x5 film, you can fit a stereo pair on every sheet, plus have a little extra unused strip on the bottom. This strip can be cut off and used for testing without ruining a good piece of film.

As far as sharpness, grain and edge effects are concerned, reversal processing is the way to go. But if you want lots of shadow detail and dynamic range, as well as the ability to duplicate losslessly, a negative-positive system is superior.

All the best,
Ian

Subject: Re: Any labs that can dupe Medium Format transparencies?
Date: 2016-11-22 06:47:26
From: David W. Kesner

> Further to the duplication discussion, does anyone know someone who can
> make a medium format stereo slide out of a medium format stereo black and
> white negative? Dr5 does not provide this service.

What make syou think they don't? Here is their page for that service:

http://www.dr5.com/blackandwhiteslide/dr5chrome.html

Or are you saying an already processed B&W negative?

David W. Kesner
Boise, Idaho, USA
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Subject: Re: Any labs that can dupe Medium Format transparencies?
Date: 2016-11-22 10:28:07
From: John Thurston

On Nov 22, 2016, at 5:46 AM, 'David W. Kesner' lists@dddphotography.com [MF3D-group] <MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

> Further to the duplication discussion, does anyone know someone who can
> make a medium format stereo slide out of a medium format stereo black and
> white negative? Dr5 does not provide this service.

What make syou think they don't? Here is their page for that service:

I read the state to be, "I have a B&W negative image on processed film".

John Thurston

Juneau, Alaska

Subject: Re: Any labs that can dupe Medium Format transparencies?
Date: 2016-11-23 07:03:04
From: Steven Lederman

Yes, John is correct - I have medium format black and white stereo negatives (already processed).

Waaaaaay back when I started using dr5's services, David was adamant that if you were a first-time user he would not accept expired film from you. He wanted you to send fresh film so that ultimate results would be achieved. That way no one could get images back that looked sub-par due to the expired film and blame Dave's services for the results. He returned the expired rolls that I had sent and I just developed them here into negatives. With hindsight, I should have kept those rolls unprocessed, as around my second or third order I was able to convince Dave that I was very interested in photographic experimentation and would not hold him responsible for any image faults that resulted from the use of expired film.

In the interim, I have asked him about making those negatives into transparencies. It is a service dr5 used to offer when he started his process in New York, and one that I believe was offered for a short time in Colorado. The service was ultimately dropped. As you all know, dr5 was on hiatus for quite a while. Now Dave is just getting up and running again in Iowa with his usual DEV 1 (neutral) process. Happily, DEV 2 (Sepia) is now offered as a regular service. There used to be a 40 roll minimum requirement to have that process done.

By the way Ian - thanks for your last post! I may attempt duping these myself someday - or may just print them and create some stereo cards.

-Steven

>
> On Nov 22, 2016, at 5:46 AM, 'David W. Kesner' lists@dddphotography.com [MF3D-group] wrote:
>
> > Further to the duplication discussion, does anyone know someone who can
> > make a medium format stereo slide out of a medium format stereo black and
> > white negative? Dr5 does not provide this service.
>
> What make syou think they don't? Here is their page for that service:
>
>>I read the state to be, "I have a B&W negative image on processed film".
--
>>John Thurston
>>Juneau, Alaska

Subject: Re: Any labs that can dupe Medium Format transparencies?
Date: 2016-11-29 16:29:19
From: bob_karambelas

This discussion seems to be covering multiple workflows.

For film-to-film optical duplication, I doubt anybody offers the service in 120; it's hard if not impossible to find in 35mm. Nobody makes duplicating film any more. It can be done with regular Provia, but it would take a lot of experimentation to get the exposure right.

For B&W negatives though, I'd think an optical copy would work very well. Just copy to negative film and you'll end up with a positive. Cheap, too.

Scanning to a digital output is the other option, the one service I know of is Gammatech http://gammatech.com I've only used them for 35mm, but thought the results were okay. For 120, they list a 3600ppi option, which is finer than a flatbed can scan natively. So if you want top quality, you should use a film scanner.

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Subject: Re: Any labs that can dupe Medium Format transparencies?
Date: 2016-11-29 16:39:46
From: Geoffrey S. Waldo

I use a Nikon 8000 for 120 format, which can be had from EBay for a few $100. I actually ground the glass cover off the sensor to reduce ghosts around highlights, but even without that it's quite fine. Files are huge, scans 4000 DPI at 14 bit each color. I've been quite happy with the results.

(To do better you'd need a drum scanner, and a single scan can be quite costly).

To make copies, I simply photograph the image on a 4K screen using a 120 format camera. I've tried using film recorders with purportedly higher resolution for "printing" copies, but the structure of the phosphor screen can offset any theoretical increase in resolution.

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