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Subject: Kodak announces the reintroduction of Ektachrome film in super 8 and
Date: 2017-01-05 15:35:03
From: iandvaag
I hope this isn't too far off topic (since the availability of medium format film isn't a sure thing), but it sure is good news anyone using film, especially slide film.

A bit of history:

Eastman Kodak has a factory in Rochester, NY. This factory produces all of the film that is branded the Kodak name. Eastman Kodak has the rights to market and distribute all Kodak motion picture film, but not film for still photography.

Kodak Alaris is a legal entity created when Eastman Kodak went through chapter 11 that is owned by the pension plan for Kodak Limited employees. As part of the bankruptcy settlement, Eastman Kodak gave Kodak Alaris all the rights to market and distribute film for still photography.

Last year at the consumer electronics show (CES) Eastman Kodak announced the introduction of a new super movie camera, which seemed rather strange since they only sell color negative super 8 film stocks. I can't see how this could have much appeal since most of the fun of shooting on film must be in projection, which can't be done with negative stocks. Today this was cleared up when Eastman Kodak announced that they will be reintroducing Ektachrome in super 8.

In addition, Kodak Alaris announced that they will be distributing 36 exposure rolls of 35mm
Ektachrome.

I believe this is relevant to our group because if the 35mm film sells well, I see no reason why Kodak Alaris would not request that Eastman Kodak finish some of the future master rolls of Ektachrome as 120 film. So perhaps now is the time to dig out your TDCs, Realists, Viewmasters, etc in the hope that in another year we can be using it in our Sputniks, Stereoflektoskops and TL120s. Even if medium format Ektachrome is never made, this may have implications on the price of Fuji slide film (which has been inflating steadily) and Ferrania's ability to get going.

Ian
Subject: Re: Kodak announces the reintroduction of Ektachrome film in super 8
Date: 2017-01-10 20:42:28
From: coronet3d
Ferrania is supposed to be re-introducing Solaris Chrome 100 sometime in the future (but who knows when).  I like Ektachrome 100 but I'd rather they bring back Kodachrome in any speed or Ektachrome 200, which I used to use a lot of.  Re-introducing Ektachrome 100 will just reduce the demand for Provia and foul-up Ferrania as well IMO.
Steve
Subject: Re: Kodak announces the reintroduction of Ektachrome film in super 8
Date: 2017-01-10 21:24:15
From: JR
Many people would like to see the return of Kodachrome, especially for stereo cameras. I recall a SMPTE meeting a few years ago, where the speaker was from Kodak.  At that time, she said that Kodak was looking at their future film production as likely being a very few types, that would be re-introduced in small quantities, for, as she put it, a "boutique business".  She said that there would have to be sufficient volume to sustain the operation of one coating machine that would coat one master roll at a time.  This then could be sliced into rolls of various sizes (35mm, 120, etc.) according to the demand of the market.  Someone asked about Kodachrome.  She replied that, while a She said that both from the standpoint of film manufacture and processing, Kodachrome required the production and sale of much greater quantities in order to be commercially sustainable than their other types.  The drop in demand below the "critical quantitative level" was cited as the reason for its discontinuance back then.  If it did return (unlikely), it would most likely be limited to 35mm. MF was marginal even back then.   

John A. Rupkalvis
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On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 6:42 PM, coronet3d@yahoo.com [MF3D-group] <MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Ferrania is supposed to be re-introducing Solaris Chrome 100 sometime in the future (but who knows when).  I like Ektachrome 100 but I'd rather they bring back Kodachrome in any speed or Ektachrome 200, which I used to use a lot of.  Re-introducing Ektachrome 100 will just reduce the demand for Provia and foul-up Ferrania as well IMO.

Steve


Subject: Re: Kodak announces the reintroduction of Ektachrome film in super 8
Date: 2017-01-10 21:57:15
From: Brian Reynolds
Steve wrote:
>
> Ferrania is supposed to be re-introducing Solaris Chrome 100
> sometime in the future (but who knows when). I like Ektachrome 100
> but I'd rather they bring back Kodachrome in any speed or Ektachrome
> 200, which I used to use a lot of. Re-introducing Ektachrome 100
> will just reduce the demand for Provia and foul-up Ferrania as well
> IMO.

FILM Ferrania has made considerable progress recently. They have
coated their first 35mm test rolls. I look forward to eventually
receiving a couple of 120 rolls from the Kickstarter project.

Kodachrome is never coming back. Besides the trouble of producing the
film, the development process was complicated and nasty. The
equipment has probably all gone to the scrappers.

I really liked E100G. I still have a few rolls left. E200 was good
if you wanted to push it to very high speeds. For an ISO of 200 it
was better to push E100G one stop. You got the same speed and
reciprocity characteristics, and finer grain.

I wouldn't pin my hopes on Fuji, nor do I think Kodak Alaris
reintroducing Ektachrome still film will hurt either Fuji, or FILM
Ferrania. With Kodak also in the market perhaps commercial E6 labs
will stick around.

--
Brian Reynolds | "It's just like flying a spaceship.
reynolds@panix.com | You push some buttons and see
https://www.panix.com/~reynolds/ | what happens." -- Zapp Brannigan
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Subject: Re: Kodak announces the reintroduction of Ektachrome film in super 8
Date: 2017-01-11 07:24:57
From: coronet3d

You're probably right about Kodachrome but that doesn't keep me from dreaming about it.  Just think of the time when it was available in various sheet sizes, including 45x107 and 60x130.  What an era that must've been!  I completely missed the decade of 120 Kodachrome (was it even a decade?).  I only wish I was into MF 3D then.

Steve

Subject: Re: Kodak announces the reintroduction of Ektachrome film in super 8
Date: 2017-01-11 18:08:11
From: Brian Reynolds
Steve wrote:
> You're probably right about Kodachrome but that doesn't keep me from
> dreaming about it.

Yeah, and I dream about T-Max in 5x7 sheets. But years of watching
Kodak price themselves out of the market have lead me to realize that
when I finish the boxes of T-Max 5x7 I have in the freezer it will be
time to switch to Ilford, or someone else.

When I run out of my last few rolls of Ektachrome I might use the Fuji
film I've been given over the years at Photo Plus Expo until Kodak
Alaris makes an official statement about Ektachrome in rolls. If they
don't make it, I'll look at Fuji and FILM Ferrania, or figure out
reversal processing T-Max at home.

> Just think of the time when it was available in various sheet sizes,
> including 45x107 and 60x130. What an era that must've been!

That was before I was born. Also, those aren't sheet film sizes.

> I completely missed the decade of 120 Kodachrome (was it even a
> decade?). I only wish I was into MF 3D then.

I wasn't shooting MF when 120 Kodachrome was available, and as I said
sheet film was long gone.

--
Brian Reynolds | "It's just like flying a spaceship.
reynolds@panix.com | You push some buttons and see
https://www.panix.com/~reynolds/ | what happens." -- Zapp Brannigan
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