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Subject: Sputnik printing frame - useful?
Date: 2018-01-27 19:38:49
From: coronet3d
Has anyone ever made use of the printing frame apparatus that came with the Sputnik' complete package?
Thanks,
Steve
Subject: Sv: [MF3D-group] Sputnik printing frame - useful?
Date: 2018-01-28 10:19:47
From: Jesper BE
I'm also very interested in this question.
Not only the sputnik printing frame, but printing sputnik negatives all together.


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Den söndag, januari 28, 2018, 02:38, skrev coronet3d@yahoo.com [MF3D-group] :

 

Has anyone ever made use of the printing frame apparatus that came with the Sputnik' complete package?

Thanks,
Steve
Subject: Re: Sv: [MF3D-group] Sputnik printing frame - useful?
Date: 2018-01-28 19:56:53
From: Timo Puhakka2
I have not used the Sputnik frame, but I have made my own frame for printing stereo cards on one sheet of paper. I have a sliding tray where you put the film in the carrier between glass plates and the whole negative slides back and forth in the enlarger. the stops are adjustable, but I only need to adjust it once for each camera. I also have a mask made from a foldover print mount with a classic arched top. The paper then slides under the mask to expose each side in turn. The paper slides in the same direction as the negative holder between exposures. I use an "IC Enlarger Timer" to get a precise match between left and right images. This took some trouble to make but it lets me print stereo cards on one sheet of paper and process it at the same time.

I imagine that the Sputnik frame will make a contact print only, but that lets you make prints without needing an enlarger.

Timo

On 2018-01-28, at 11:19 AM, Jesper BE jeppeln@yahoo.com [MF3D-group] wrote:

 

I'm also very interested in this question.

Not only the sputnik printing frame, but printing sputnik negatives all together.


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Den söndag, januari 28, 2018, 02:38, skrev coronet3d@yahoo.com [MF3D-group] <MF3D-group@yahoogroups.com>:

 

Has anyone ever made use of the printing frame apparatus that came with the Sputnik' complete package?

Thanks,
Steve


Subject: Re: Sputnik printing frame - useful?
Date: 2018-01-29 04:17:00
From: jeppeln
Hi Timo, that sounds really interesting, could you supply a picture of your invention?
I would love to build one of these myself, was it difficult/expensive to build?
Can you do contact prints with it too?

I'm new to all of this, is there a manual for doing stereo prints somewhere?
Subject: Re: Sputnik printing frame - useful?
Date: 2018-01-29 09:03:16
From: coronet3d

Has anyone ever attempted to print Sputnik images side by side using a 4x5 enlarger?  They should fit but I think you'd need a pretty short lens in order to make Holmes sized cards.

As for the Sputnik printing frame, I'm pretty sure you'd have to cut 6x13 sheets in order for it to work but as I don't own one, there's no way for me to check, hence the original question.

Thanks,

Steve

Subject: Re: Sputnik printing frame - useful?
Date: 2018-01-30 22:52:27
From: tpuhakka@ymail.com
I was posting some images for printing stereo images from the Sputnik, so I thought I would show off my tricked out Sputnik. Visible are the top and bottom plates of 1mm thick polystyrene to block light getting in. I machined some pretty unsophisticated lens shade holders and mounted adaptor rings to hold the vented shades. On the left lens adaptor, I have mounted a depth of field scale, similar to the one on my TL120, only with blind mans numbers for easy reading. There is a cold shoe to hold my VCII meter and posts for a neck strap. (I'm using the one that came with the TL120 to fool people ;-) ). I also added the shutter linkage, similar to much more complex folding linkages I have seen on old folding cameras. There is also an extension attached to the shutter cocking lever, because that is just too dangereous under normal conditions.
Not visible is the blackened edges on the front elements of the lenses and the telescope flocking on the inside of the light chambers.

I just recently discovered that I don't need to get the shutters adjusted. Talk on this list suggested that I check that the apertures are matched. They weren't. In the process of correcting that, I wound up replacing the crappy Russian thumb screw, with a proper hex socket head cap screw.

As to the f32 aperture modification, you can see from this image that it is not possible on my Spud. The linkage already makes contact with the cable release socket at f22.

Timo
Subject: Re: Sputnik printing frame - useful?
Date: 2018-01-30 23:14:51
From: tpuhakka@ymail.com
Having some trouble getting this post to go up. Here's another try.

I was posting some images for printing stereo images from the Sputnik, so I thought I would show off my tricked out Sputnik. Visible are the top and bottom plates of 1mm thick polystyrene to block light getting in. I machined some pretty unsophisticated lens shade holders and mounted adaptor rings to hold the vented shades. On the left lens adaptor, I have mounted a depth of field scale, similar to the one on my TL120, only with blind mans numbers for easy reading. There is a cold shoe to hold my VCII meter and posts for a neck strap. (I'm using the one that came with the TL120 to fool people ;-) ). I also added the shutter linkage, similar to much more complex folding linkages I have seen on old folding cameras. There is also an extension attached to the shutter cocking lever, because that is just too dangereous under normal conditions.
Not visible is the blackened edges on the front elements of the lenses and the telescope flocking on the inside of the light chambers.

I just recently discovered that I don't need to get the shutters adjusted. Talk on this list suggested that I check that the apertures are matched. They weren't. In the process of correcting that, I wound up replacing the crappy Russian thumb screw, with a proper hex socket head cap screw.

As to the f32 aperture modification, you can see from this image that it is not possible on my Spud. The linkage already makes contact with the cable release socket at f22.

Timo
Subject: Re: Sputnik printing frame - useful?
Date: 2018-01-30 23:21:08
From: Timo Puhakka2
I have posted some images on Phereo of the stereo printing setup I have built. It isn't pretty, but it works.
http://phereo.com/image/5a70f2bee7e564a204000189
http://phereo.com/image/5a70f291e7e564411300015e

Timo

On 2018-01-29, at 5:16 AM, jeppeln@yahoo.com [MF3D-group] wrote:

 

Hi Timo, that sounds really interesting, could you supply a picture of your invention?
I would love to build one of these myself, was it difficult/expensive to build?
Can you do contact prints with it too?

I'm new to all of this, is there a manual for doing stereo prints somewhere?


Subject: Re: Sputnik printing frame - useful?
Date: 2018-01-31 00:06:09
From: Timo Puhakka2
I'll put up some photos tomorrow. I'll also put up a couple of images of my Sputnik.

Timo


On 2018-01-29, at 5:16 AM, jeppeln@yahoo.com [MF3D-group] wrote:

 

Hi Timo, that sounds really interesting, could you supply a picture of your invention?
I would love to build one of these myself, was it difficult/expensive to build?
Can you do contact prints with it too?

I'm new to all of this, is there a manual for doing stereo prints somewhere?


Subject: Re: Sputnik printing frame - useful?
Date: 2018-01-31 06:46:34
From: jeppeln
Yowsa! That is indeed a Sputnik on stereoids. Fantastic!
Subject: Re: Sputnik printing frame - useful?
Date: 2018-01-31 07:27:11
From: jeppeln
Many thanks for the upload!
So you slide the negatives once one has been printed, but how do you move the print paper making sure it will get correctly aligned?
Subject: Re: Sputnik printing frame - useful?
Date: 2018-01-31 10:45:24
From: Timo Puhakka
The paper slides under the mask in the same direction that the film goes. I have stops to register the paper to the bottom and left and right sides. I just have to remember to slide both the negative and the paper between exposures. Forgetting to slide the negative is what lead to the idea my son had to make a stereo image within a stereo image.
http://phereo.com/image/58a48548e7e564b71b000151
This image however was made with double left and double right cards printed with my Selfie printer.

Timo

On 2018-01-31, at 4:38 AM, jeppeln@yahoo.com [MF3D-group] wrote:

 

Many thanks for the upload!
So you slide the negatives once one has been printed, but how do you move the print paper making sure it will get correctly aligned?


Subject: Re: Sputnik printing frame - useful?
Date: 2018-01-31 11:46:17
From: John Thurston
On 1/30/2018 5:29 PM, tpuhakka@ymail.com [MF3D-group] wrote:
> As to the f32 aperture modification, you can see from this image that it is not possible on my Spud. The linkage already makes contact with the cable release socket at f22.


Bah. Take a file to the rearward edge of that cable release
socket, Timo. There's too much metal there, anyway :)

Another option is to bend the arm back (toward the body of
the camera). It will change the aperture sync just a tad,
but you already know how to match 'em up again.

'course, before you do either of those things, you'd
disconnect the bar (in the center), and confirm each
aperture can actually stop to f/32 (2.3mm diameter). There
may be some other bit of metal preventing it from going that
small.

--
John Thurston
Juneau Alaska
http://stereo.thurstons.us
Subject: Re: Sputnik printing frame - useful?
Date: 2018-02-01 02:27:53
From: jeppeln
That is an amazing piece of art right there Timo, never seen anything like it :O

Aha ok, I understand.
I don't think I can create such a thing, I'm thinking about contact printing instead, I wonder how a contact print frame might work?